DAZN's problem: They pay out PPV-caliber purses but don't earn PPV revenue

[Fanofreason]

Dazn is screwed. Now they are begging investors for $500 million more as they have more rights fees coming up in January, and don’t have the liquid capital to pay them.

[Bullrider]

You know damn well that's common to boxing events in all platforms.
Question you should be asking yourself is why is PBC, being
in the game for decades, unable to match the offers Hearn/DAZN is giving out?
Why is it that you expect sky high offers when it comes to DAZN,
yet tolerate PBC in whatever they can give out?
Why is the pot bigger at DAZN and not at PBC?

That's why it's simple common sense why DAZN is not offering percentage splits as there's no PPV sales to split up. The so-called "pot" can't even be pre-determined as it only depends, like most businesses, on whether the product would sell or not, which not even nostradamus would be able to predict.

[N/A]

That's why it's simple common sense why DAZN is not offering percentage splits as there's no PPV sales to split up. The so-called "pot" can't even be pre-determined as it only depends, like most businesses, on whether the product would sell or not, which not even nostradamus would be able to predict.

the pot is easy to determine. dazn pays a license fee for the fight. that goes into the pot.

the problem with the wilder negotiations is that dazn wanted to hide from wilder what they were paying for the fight.

[ShoulderRoll]

here's all you need to know........

Haymon spends several hundred million ($400-$900 million depending on who you ask) of investors money developing his concept = brilliant, playin chess doe


DAZN spends maybe $100-$150 million developing their concept = unsustainable disaster

But Haymon was working with the traditional model of PPV. Still is.

DAZN doesn't have that potentially huge revenue stream.

[OnePunch]

But Haymon was working with the traditional model of PPV. Still is.

DAZN doesn't have that potentially huge revenue stream.

and based on the cost of events like Wilder-Breazeale and Wilder-Ortiz 2, he loses money even on PPV.

Unless of course all the bragging about Wilder getting $20 million for each of those fights was nonsense.......

[Robbie Barrett]

8 million subs worldwide and growing. I'd say they're doing fine.

[ShoulderRoll]

and based on the cost of events like Wilder-Breazeale and Wilder-Ortiz 2, he loses money even on PPV.

Unless of course all the bragging about Wilder getting $20 million for each of those fights was nonsense.......

Wilder-Breazeale wasn't on PPV.

[OnePunch]

Wilder-Breazeale wasn't on PPV.

my bad, I thought it was.

but the point stands. If you think Showtime paid $20 million to Wilder for that fight then you need your head examined.

Obviously, if the "$20 million doe to match DAZN" rumors were true, then Haymon had to eat the loss.....

[ShoulderRoll]

my bad, I thought it was.

but the point stands. If you think Showtime paid $20 million to Wilder for that fight then you need your head examined.

Obviously, if the "$20 million doe to match DAZN" rumors were true, then Haymon had to eat the loss.....

For the sake of argument let's say that Haymon is indeed paying Wilder $20 million and losing money while he "subdidizes" his rise to bankable PPV player.

The possibility of recouping that money with one successful PPV is always going to be there.

How is DAZN hoping to recover all the money that they're spending? Relying on subscriptions alone seems farfetched.

[Bullrider]

the pot is easy to determine. dazn pays a license fee for the fight. that goes into the pot.

the problem with the wilder negotiations is that dazn wanted to hide from wilder what they were paying for the fight.

Don't know why you don't realize you're not making any sense.

Are you acknowledging DAZN is willing to spend more money than PBC? And you're penalizing them for doing so?