Anthony Joshua doesn't deserve a fight against Deontay Wilder

[Marchegiano]

Didn't read. Joshua is holding all world titles apart from 1. You are a joke. Can't believe you bothered to write so much drivel cuz nobody is reading it all. You sad sad loser.

Meh, he might be sad but all you did was admit to being an emotional little toad's pizzle who can't even hear our a contrary stance let alone begin to try to respect one.

I didn't read it but let me tell you all about the emotional response you got out of me anyway.....hmmm....alright there buttercup, y'all is cute.

[MEXICAN STYLE]

Boxing needs fights like Joshua-Deontay to happen

The King of Jabs (Joshua 2.0) vs The KO Artist

[No punch power]

Wow, you really did leave me waiting a long time .
Well, thats your opinion. The record will show a knockdown, not a knockout. FACT.


Still a knockdown. No one else has done that. FACT.


Are you talking about Ruiz or Wilder here???


Ah so you're one of those fans that thinks a boxing match is won by KO. There is no rule that states; if you lose by KO, to save face with a bunch of people on a meaningless forum, you MUST brutally KO the opponent that knocked you out. If this is not met, you do not win.
Jesus, get over it. Joshua beat Ruiz, by a wide margin too.


WRONG, on all counts. AGAIN
1. He doesn't KO everyone. See above. Also, he registered no KO wins as an amateur.
2. Deontay Wilder hasn't fought Andy Ruiz.


WRONG. Without having a recognised title, you are not considered a Champion. Thats how it works.

By your rationale, every Boxer is a Champion. But if your aim is to pep talk every dogshit boxer in history by calling them 'Champ', that's really nice of you.


I'm not sure which point you mean here.

Try and make your response a little quicker, yeah?

Not my opinion! The true record is in the boxing clip. Fact is, Fury was down for the 10 count and a bias referee prolonging the count is not going to change that fact.

So that's the only record that truly matters to honest people.

So yes, the record shows Fury was down for the 10 count with the referee not only prolonging the count, but helping Fury up to his feet.



Still a knockdown? Still a off-balanced knockdown. FACT!


Actually yes, not being able to KO an opponent in a rematch that KO'ed you first, when possessing nearly every advantage over that opponent in height, functional weight, reach, muscle mass and wealth makes you a laughing stock and makes you worthless. As worthless as a 30 year old adult needing a decision to beat a 10 year old kid in a boxing match. That's how embarrassing it is for Joshua to not being able to KO a fat, obese and out of shape useless scrub like Andy Ruiz Jr when he had all the advantages imaginable. Just like how the 30 year old adult would also have all the advantages over that 10 year old kid.

You don't avenge a 5-0 loss in a soccer (European football) match by winning 1-0 in the rematch.

Likewise, you don't avenge a brutal, one-sided stoppage loss by a decision win in the rematch whilst having all the advantages imaginable.

Joshua simply did not beat Ruiz Jr by the same margin that Ruiz Jr beat him by. And the only way Joshua does this, is by going back there and knocking Ruiz Jr out more brutally.

I don't need to get over anything, until Joshua goes back there and knocks Andy Ruiz Jr out, and proves he is a worthy man and boxer at the highest level.

If you think a boxer winning by decision after holding every advantage that can be held over his opponent, is impressive after that boxer got stopped first, then you can do so... But you don't have much of a ground to stand on

From where I come from, level of performance does matter and boxrec / wiki records alone aren't enough to determine the quality / worth of a boxer.

There is no rule that states Joshua has to KO Ruiz Jr to win or avenge his loss. But that doesn't mean Joshua not KO'ing Ruiz Jr and winning (officially) by decision makes him any more worthy for a fight against Deontay Wilder or at all worthy at the highest level. It still doesn't stop him from being a laughing stock for his failure to KO an obese, fat scrub whilst holding every advantage.

Wilder's amateur bouts are irrelevant. He was too inexperienced and young. He started boxing late. Everyone should know this by now.

In the pros, he has KO'ed everyone. Deontay Wilder fought Luis Ortiz, who is significantly superior to Andy Ruiz Jr and knocked him out. So he doesn't have to fight a skill-less obese scrub in Andy Ruiz Jr who is less skilled, less powerful and less accomplished than Luis Ortiz.

Anthony Joshua failing to KO Andy Ruiz Jr speaks more volumes about how pathetic, embarrassing, disgraceful and worthless Joshua is, than about anything else.

By my rationale, the boxer who's beaten the best opponents, is the 'champion'. That has nothing to do with ABC belts.

Your point would stand or hold any merit if there really was only one title / belt for the heavyweight division. Such isn't the case. Which means you can have multiple title-holders in the heavyweight division but you can't have multiple champions, as 'champion' by definition means one who has surpassed all his rivals. So ultimately, there can only be one true 'champion' so titles or belts don't help us determine that true champion as there are multiples of them in a division.

Manuel Charr holds one of the ABC belts but Povetkin never has. But Povetkin actually beat Manuel Charr head to head and has a better record overall. So who's the real champion? The belt-holder or the one with the better heavyweight record?

In an era where anybody can earn a belt with some luck, gifts and help, holding a belt means literally nothing.

The belt doesn't make the champion. The champion makes the belt. Everyone who has sufficient knowledge of boxing history knows this.


"I'm not sure which point you mean here.

Try and make your response a little quicker, yeah?"


I was responding to this point of yours:

"An overweight, out of shape, probably 50% Fury beat Wilder. AND EVERYONE, EXCEPT WILDER FANS, AGREES."

With the following:

"And Fury is superior to Joshua or anybody Joshua has ever beaten. So your point about Fury is moot and irrelevant here."


And nah, I'd rather take my time. If you don't like it, you know where you can stick it where the sun don't shine!

[No punch power]

Didn't read. Joshua is holding all world titles apart from 1. You are a joke. Can't believe you bothered to write so much drivel cuz nobody is reading it all. You sad sad loser.

Oh, were your feelings hurt because your beloved crush Joshua got exposed?

[QueensburyRules]

Deontay Wilder has KO'ed every opponent he has ever faced. Meanwhile, this pathetically weak and feather-fisted Anthony Joshua landed all but everything using all his might and soul with every ounce of energy and strength he has from his being on Andy Ruiz Jr for 2 fights and couldn't even come close to knocking out Andy Ruiz Jr who previously brutalized him.

If you get brutally stopped by a feather-fisted obese scrub like Andy Ruiz Jr and fail to avenge such a stoppage loss via an even more brutal KO over this obese, out of shape scrub in the rematch, then you have no business being in the ring with a superior specimen and being like Deontay Wilder. You don't even deserve to share the same ring with Deontay Wilder, or are even a worthy opponent for someone like Deontay Wilder.

For Anthony Joshua to even qualify as a worthy, credible and a deserved opponent for Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua has to go back and rematch Andy Ruiz Jr again and KO Ruiz Jr more brutally than how he himself got stopped by Ruiz Jr. Anything short of that, disqualifies Joshua from ever deserving a fight against Wilder.

There's no excuse for even getting destroyed by a pure obese and out of shape scrub like Andy Ruiz Jr in the first place. But there's even less of an excuse for failing to avenge a stoppage loss against such a horrible opponent through a more brutal KO of yourself in the rematch (which Joshua failed to do as he needed a decision).

If Joshua can't even KO Andy Ruiz Jr, then he is pretty much worthless. Especially when you take into consideration all the crazy number of advantages he holds in terms of muscle mass, height, reach, functional body weight, more money to hire better strength and conditioning coaches and so forth so on.

- -AJ could retire tomorrow ranked over Deyonce and Furry.

U still cry U to sleep.

[Benstino]

Needless of reading this. Even the first paragraph alone indicates that a good for nothing fool opened the thread

[Benstino]

deontay should take this money fight asap.

he could dispose of AJ in 4 rounds.

and im an AJ fan.

It's obvious you're ******ed. Childish wilder fans everywhere, hiding behind the masks

[N/A]

This thread is ridiculous. Of course Joshua deserves a fight with Wilder. He's the unified heavyweight champion of the world.

[Benstino]

Someone with 3 major belts doesn't deserve a fight with someone who's got only one belt?
RIDICULOUS
If there's one to desire this fight, it should be Wilder. I mean, why not go there and knock Joshua out, then take all the belts. The only reason why any sane man can't do this, is if of course he's afraid. If Wilder ducks this one, then he'll prove boxing fans incontrovertibly correct that he's a disgrace. When Ruiz was preparing for the rematch, Wilder was running his mouth with ONE CHAMPION! ONE Face! One name!, dying to fight Ruiz for all the belts. Immediately Joshua won, he hid, and forgot about one champion. Only Wilder fans thinks Wilder ain't sincerely afraid of Joshua. Wilder better take this fight and for once, fight someone with a name

[QueensburyRules]

Not my opinion! The true record is in the boxing clip. Fact is, Fury was down for the 10 count and a bias referee prolonging the count is not going to change that fact.

So that's the only record that truly matters to honest people.

So yes, the record shows Fury was down for the 10 count with the referee not only prolonging the count, but helping Fury up to his feet.



Still a knockdown? Still a off-balanced knockdown. FACT!


Actually yes, not being able to KO an opponent in a rematch that KO'ed you first, when possessing nearly every advantage over that opponent in height, functional weight, reach, muscle mass and wealth makes you a laughing stock and makes you worthless. As worthless as a 30 year old adult needing a decision to beat a 10 year old kid in a boxing match. That's how embarrassing it is for Joshua to not being able to KO a fat, obese and out of shape useless scrub like Andy Ruiz Jr when he had all the advantages imaginable. Just like how the 30 year old adult would also have all the advantages over that 10 year old kid.

You don't avenge a 5-0 loss in a soccer (European football) match by winning 1-0 in the rematch.

Likewise, you don't avenge a brutal, one-sided stoppage loss by a decision win in the rematch whilst having all the advantages imaginable.

Joshua simply did not beat Ruiz Jr by the same margin that Ruiz Jr beat him by. And the only way Joshua does this, is by going back there and knocking Ruiz Jr out more brutally.

I don't need to get over anything, until Joshua goes back there and knocks Andy Ruiz Jr out, and proves he is a worthy man and boxer at the highest level.

If you think a boxer winning by decision after holding every advantage that can be held over his opponent, is impressive after that boxer got stopped first, then you can do so... But you don't have much of a ground to stand on

From where I come from, level of performance does matter and boxrec / wiki records alone aren't enough to determine the quality / worth of a boxer.

There is no rule that states Joshua has to KO Ruiz Jr to win or avenge his loss. But that doesn't mean Joshua not KO'ing Ruiz Jr and winning (officially) by decision makes him any more worthy for a fight against Deontay Wilder or at all worthy at the highest level. It still doesn't stop him from being a laughing stock for his failure to KO an obese, fat scrub whilst holding every advantage.

Wilder's amateur bouts are irrelevant. He was too inexperienced and young. He started boxing late. Everyone should know this by now.

In the pros, he has KO'ed everyone. Deontay Wilder fought Luis Ortiz, who is significantly superior to Andy Ruiz Jr and knocked him out. So he doesn't have to fight a skill-less obese scrub in Andy Ruiz Jr who is less skilled, less powerful and less accomplished than Luis Ortiz.

Anthony Joshua failing to KO Andy Ruiz Jr speaks more volumes about how pathetic, embarrassing, disgraceful and worthless Joshua is, than about anything else.

By my rationale, the boxer who's beaten the best opponents, is the 'champion'. That has nothing to do with ABC belts.

Your point would stand or hold any merit if there really was only one title / belt for the heavyweight division. Such isn't the case. Which means you can have multiple title-holders in the heavyweight division but you can't have multiple champions, as 'champion' by definition means one who has surpassed all his rivals. So ultimately, there can only be one true 'champion' so titles or belts don't help us determine that true champion as there are multiples of them in a division.

Manuel Charr holds one of the ABC belts but Povetkin never has. But Povetkin actually beat Manuel Charr head to head and has a better record overall. So who's the real champion? The belt-holder or the one with the better heavyweight record?

In an era where anybody can earn a belt with some luck, gifts and help, holding a belt means literally nothing.

The belt doesn't make the champion. The champion makes the belt. Everyone who has sufficient knowledge of boxing history knows this.


"I'm not sure which point you mean here.

Try and make your response a little quicker, yeah?"


I was responding to this point of yours:

"An overweight, out of shape, probably 50% Fury beat Wilder. AND EVERYONE, EXCEPT WILDER FANS, AGREES."

With the following:

"And Fury is superior to Joshua or anybody Joshua has ever beaten. So your point about Fury is moot and irrelevant here."


And nah, I'd rather take my time. If you don't like it, you know where you can stick it where the sun don't shine!

- -U live where sun don't shine?

What grade U in this year?