What stopped him from potentially reclaiming a P4P spot was his knee injury.
Remember when Roman Gonzalez was to ten P4P
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Yes. Against a nobody, in a nobodies undercard. Before that, he fought a year ago, against a nobody, a year after losing to Rungvisai. He’s essentially M.I.A and has been since his loss thus not much talk around him. Use some common sense.
That first fight back also did build up buzz, but big surprise when people start paying less and less attention when you fight once a year against super bums and move onto obscure events. Have him get busy again and watch him get built up again. People lose all the time in the sport. If you think it’s the lose that’s the reason he has become obscure and not the lack of fighting then you haven’t been following the sport long enough. The vast majority of boxer’s lose.Last edited by SplitSecond; 12-24-2019, 08:48 PM.Comment
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Sounds like you were falling for the hype a bit too much then. Gonzalez was still in his prime when he took a points loss, followed by an absolute beatdown from the at the time unheralded and quite frankly a bit limited Rungvisai.
Roman is exciting to watch, but he isn't massively skilled. I didn't say just good, I said very good, but also, that he is not special, which he isn't.Comment
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This. /thread
He was p4p #1 no question and if you can't see the talent he had it really just shows how little you know about boxing. The problem for him was that he moved too far up in weight looking for new challenges. He was never big enough for 115lbs.Comment
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He was injured after the fight on the GGG/Canelo 2 undercard. And lots of guys get injured, but they're still relevant. Choc fell off the ****ing map.Yes. Against a nobody, in a nobodies undercard. Before that, he fought a year ago, against a nobody, a year after losing to Rungvisai. He’s essentially M.I.A and has been since his loss thus not much talk around him. Use some common sense.
That first fight back also did build up buzz, but big surprise when people start paying less and less attention when you fight once a year against super bums and move onto obscure events. Have him get busy again and watch him get built up again. People lose all the time in the sport. If you think it’s the lose that’s the reason he has become obscure and not the lack of fighting then you haven’t been following the sport long enough. The vast majority of boxer’s lose.Comment
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I mean all you're really proving is that fighters decline and eventually leave the P4P list at some point. There's really nothing that should be relevating about that. A fighter can either retire before that happens or not. But one way or another, it will happen either from age, changing weight class, ring mileage or personal issues. Same thing has and will happen to every P4P fighter to ever exist. Happens in other sports too.Comment
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People cared about Marquez all the way up until he retired - and he'd lost. Same with Manny.Shows how this sport has become though. You’re loved until you take an L.
Never used to be like that. My dad visited this weekend and we watched the PBC card. My dads a boxing fan from the 70’s and 80’s so when he saw their records he didn’t sweat the L’s he just asked who they were against.
Chocolatito passed people's 'eye test' easily. Even Floyd had him #1. I never saw it - and I predicted the first loss and the second. He just hadn't met someone who wasn't afraid of him.
Taking a loss does not completely ruin you. It's (A) how you lost and (B) how you bounce back from that loss. Chocolatito shouldn't have lost that rematch, frankly. But he didn't take the training seriously, either he was mentally F'd or whatever, but he shouldn't have lost that rematch.Comment
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I remember Gonzalez has quite the defense in bobbing and weaving. His defense really started to deteriorate when the size factor really and it was harder to get inside bigger men and that he had to eat more punches in order to get inside.I thought he was deservedly ranked p4p number 1, honestly his biggest wins probably came before he got on HBO and even then he was still pretty dominant up until he fought Cuadras.... by then the size factor had begun to work against him. People forgot about him now but real ones know Roman was a beast and his fights were always very entertaining. Not many execute “hit and not get hit” while coming forward as relentlessly as he did.Comment
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