Why does boxing still have three judges scoring a fight?

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  • _Rexy_
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    #41
    5 judges in the back watching the fight on monitors with only the sounds from the ring. Nobody around any of them, they drop their vote each round into a locked box that is counted at the end of the fight.

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    • Blond Beast
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      #42
      Originally posted by Curtis Harper
      So...what is the alternative(s) ???
      Exactly. This is a human condition. More judges would just show that more people couldn’t agree on the same scorecard. Or all the people that claim fixes, that’d just be more judges to get to. Often two judges may have the same score but if you look at the actual rounds scored they show a different story. I had Harrison ahead against Charlo, but he was behind as far as I had him ahead on the cards according to the judges. Canelo v GGG fights should show just how polarized things get. They were close fights and a lot couldn’t even admit that. Aldo just lost a decision in the ufc. But sum people say he got robbed. Pretty strong term in a five round fight. Now Aldo gets the title shot cause Dana says so? That’s a joke league. I know my brother watches a lot of fights with the sound off and he says it keeps him more honest, but I know there’d still be issues. I think if humans are going to score it, there’s always going to be a wide discrepancy. if each minute of each round was worth a point, would that show that judges aren’t as far apart? Or just magnify the same problems? Eye witnesses are unreliable. Anyone who has been jammed up knows that. Unless the screw is in I’d like to think it’s all relative.

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      • Curtis Harper
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        #43
        Originally posted by Blond Beast
        Exactly. This is a human condition. More judges would just show that more people couldn’t agree on the same scorecard. Or all the people that claim fixes, that’d just be more judges to get to. Often two judges may have the same score but if you look at the actual rounds scored they show a different story. I had Harrison ahead against Charlo, but he was behind as far as I had him ahead on the cards according to the judges. Canelo v GGG fights should show just how polarized things get. They were close fights and a lot couldn’t even admit that. Aldo just lost a decision in the ufc. But sum people say he got robbed. Pretty strong term in a five round fight. Now Aldo gets the title shot cause Dana says so? That’s a joke league. I know my brother watches a lot of fights with the sound off and he says it keeps him more honest, but I know there’d still be issues. I think if humans are going to score it, there’s always going to be a wide discrepancy. if each minute of each round was worth a point, would that show that judges aren’t as far apart? Or just magnify the same problems? Eye witnesses are unreliable. Anyone who has been jammed up knows that. Unless the screw is in I’d like to think it’s all relative.
        Humans are inferior and susceptible to malfeasance.

        I stated that they should be placed in separate rooms, wired with video and sound, with a huge monitor with a rewind and pause function for in between rounds.

        They complain about not having the best viewing angles and this would eliminate that. Boxing knows how to fix itself but it won't.

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        • sargo
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          #44
          Originally posted by KingHippo
          Ring generalship is a differentiator and also usually means that one suffered the least punishment. If both fighter are equally hurt, give the round to the one who controlled the pace. Simple.
          Then just score the round a draw if equally hurt.

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          • sargo
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            #45
            Originally posted by revelated
            "hurt the other more". So basically what you're saying is that Crawford should have gone to a draw against Postol. Right?
            Didn't watch that fight. If equally hurt, draw. Don't force the 10-9.

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              #46
              Originally posted by sargo
              Didn't watch that fight. If equally hurt, draw. Don't force the 10-9.
              Crawford never hurt Postol because Postol barely engaged. At one point they stared at each other for 15 seconds.

              So when NOBODY is "hurt more", you can only score a draw, going by what you said.

              How about this. Go watch the fight and score using your theory.

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              • KingHippo
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                #47
                Originally posted by sargo
                Then just score the round a draw if equally hurt.
                More complicated than that. One fighter can hurt you by connecting here and there while doing some incredibly sloppy work, while the other one might connecting with sick pivots footwork combos counters and all the little things like toying with the guard, throwing mixed signals setting traps and using unconventional angles. This has to be rewarded.

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                • PRINCEKOOL
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                  #48
                  I think the judges always need to be human, maybe they could introduce 4 judges. 'The ring is a square after all' and a square has 4 sides 'Which the fight can be observed from etc'

                  I don't understand why people are calling for 5 judges, it makes more sense to have 4 judges.

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