Was Apollo Creed a Beta Male for Training Rocky for the Cluber Lang Rematch?

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  • Larry the boss
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    #11
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
    Then why did he fight Drago?

    He also wanted a rematch with Rocky behind closed doors.

    It obvious he was in the gym everyday training, sparring and keeping himself fighting fit.
    If you watch rocky 4 it says he was out of the ring for 5 years or more..He had a ego trip that cost him his life..plus that Drago fight was supposed to be an "EXHIBITION"

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    • South Champion
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      #12
      Khan and Porter were sparring partners of Pacquiao, and now both want to fight him.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Sweet Scions
        It's been awhile since I've revisited the original series. Does Apollo specifically establish that he's just on hiatus at any point? I could be wrong. Regardless, I think it's pretty clear that the series' angle on that development is icy rivalry gradually giving way to mutual respect and male bonding that develops over the course of III and is then in full effect in IV with Rock and Apollo basically being the two closest buds to ever walk the earth. Not some kind of subservient act of weakness from Apollo.
        That came from Apollo openly giving way and making Rocky the King by offering to train and spar with him.

        Why didn't he think could take on and beat Clubber?

        He Battered Rocky for 30 rounds winning probably 25+ rounds, and only loss the second fight by a second.

        It seems as Rocky took his manhood that night too.

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          #14
          Originally posted by historian larry
          If you watch rocky 4 it says he was out of the ring for 5 years or more..He had a ego trip that cost him his life..plus that Drago fight was supposed to be an "EXHIBITION"

          For 5 years? Then he was clearly still active before the first fight with Clubber.

          For the Drago fight, he said he never felt better, and he wanted to put on a show and embarrassed Drago.

          Did he even study the tapes on Drago?

          Drago is just a sportsman and only doing his job.

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            #15
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation
            That came from Apollo openly giving way and making Rocky the King by offering to train and spar with him.

            Why didn't he think could take on and beat Clubber?

            He Battered Rocky for 30 rounds winning probably 25+ rounds, and only loss the second fight by a second.

            It seems as Rocky took his manhood that night too.
            I mean, I do see your point. Is there a plot thread I'm not remembering, where Creed is retired but reluctantly, Ie. to placate his wife etc? That would explain a lot as to the decision to pass the torch vs gunning for Clubber himself (and the initial friction between Rocky aand Creed at the outset of training). I'm fuzzy on a lot of small details like I said. At the same time, it can pretty much be whatever you want it to be, so hey. If III's plot.developments make Apollo the ultimate simp to you I say roll with it
            Last edited by Sweet Scions; 12-19-2019, 09:39 PM.

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              #16
              Carl Weathers read this thread then called William Shatner and said "now I know what you go through, those people are scare me too ".

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                #17
                Lol just answering this question along would make you a pretty sad individual considering it's just a movie lol.I hope people still know movies are make believe lol

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                • Luilun
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                  #18
                  Boxers are not Beta Males you have to have balls to fight

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                    #19
                    They had a fight behind closed doors which Apollo won. Or at least that's what Rocky told Adonis.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                      Was Apollo a beta male for training and becoming all pally with his main rival, the guy that took his world title.

                      Apollo was still a pro and wanted a rematch, what was his deal on helping his arch rival regain his title.


                      Shouldn't he just gone after Clubber himself?
                      LOL I love how no one has made the correlation between your post and AJ helping Fury for Wilder.

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