Was Apollo Creed a Beta Male for Training Rocky for the Cluber Lang Rematch?

[D4thincarnation]

[GGG Gloveking]

I'd call him a sellout and an Uncle Tom for selling out the black man and helping whitey win, but I don't know if I'd call him beta unless Rocky was smashing his wife with his lip to the side

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Nah, he was a smart business man.

Until the Drago fight.

[South Champion]

Mosley sparred with De La Hoya before De La Hoya fought Mayweather. Then, Mosley ended up fighting Mayweather.

[Larry the boss]

apollo was not still a pro, he retired before rocky did

[Sweet Scions]

It's what Larry said, isn't it? Creed had essentially retired (presumably actual retirement, not 2019 "retirement") after his defeat in part II. Thread gave a me good laugh but obviously the correct answer in the movie's universe is no, it was purely a brothers in arms/mutual respect element and Apollo was and is the archetypal ultimate alpha.

[D4thincarnation]

apollo was not still a pro, he retired before rocky did

Then why did he fight Drago?

He also wanted a rematch with Rocky behind closed doors.

It obvious he was in the gym everyday training, sparring and keeping himself fighting fit.

[D4thincarnation]

It's what Larry said, isn't it? Creed had essentially retired (presumably actual retirement, not a few years' hibernation followed by hokey carnival attraction one-offs) after his defeat in part II. Thread gave a me good laugh but obviously the correct answer in the movie's universe is no, it was purely a brothers in arms/mutual respect element and Apollo was and is the archetypal ultimate alpha.

Clubber called him out as well.
He never said he was retired.

Apollo was just taking a career break.

[boliodogs]

It's only a movie so make him whatever you want.

[Sweet Scions]

Clubber called him out as well.
He never said he was retired.

Apollo was just taking a career break.

It's been awhile since I've revisited the original series. Does Apollo specifically establish that he's just on hiatus at any point? I could be wrong. Regardless, I think it's pretty clear that the series' angle on that development is icy rivalry gradually giving way to mutual respect and male bonding that develops over the course of III and is then in full effect in IV with Rock and Apollo basically being the two closest buds to ever walk the earth. Maybe not the most realistic turn of events, but not some kind of subservient act of weakness from Apollo, in the movie's world.