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  • #71
    Originally posted by Curtis Harper View Post
    For every fan who won't pay for it, there will be millions who will and they know it. Pac is begging for it. Pac and his excuse made a shlt fight even shlttier....and still millions will pay to see it again. That's the power of May.

    I agree that May's style since moving up isn't the most fan friendly style. After a while a fan knows what to expect. You don't go see a movie that doesn't interest you.

    Mismatches are time wasters. They don't prepare a top guy for future top guys. They are glorified sparring sessions. Sure, once every decade a big under dog will pull off a fluke.

    I won't get into resumes here...you are either unbiased and tell it like it is or you're not. No sense in debating that.

    Fu ck FOTD....May was p4p and ppv king when he was active. And even a largely inactive May is a possible FOTD winner. Pac should not win off of the Thurman fight. He lost to May, was slept by JMM and robbed 2x. 4 L's on the ledger. If Pac wins, that shows how little the award means.

    The bold part of your post had me laughing my ass off for hours !!!!!!!!!! Shot May would always beat a prime Pac...
    Who is the best fighter that ever lived? In your opinion

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    • #72
      Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
      Who is the best fighter that ever lived? In your opinion
      There is no such fighter. The popular choice is SRR. Another is Armstrong.

      The best that I've witness fight has to be May. A combination of credible opponents through multiple divs and having THE SPORT declare him p4p king for most of his career supports my case.

      Ali is the best HW I've ever seen and would vote him the ATG HW.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Curtis Harper View Post
        There is no such fighter. The popular choice is SRR. Another is Armstrong.

        The best that I've witness fight has to be May. A combination of credible opponents through multiple divs and having THE SPORT declare him p4p king for most of his career supports my case.

        Ali is the best HW I've ever seen and would vote him the ATG HW.
        lol There is NO such fighter? Its a question you cannot honestly answer because you dont know much about the history of the sport? (thats a question)

        Its an opinion. Based on your knowledge of the sport. Not popular belief. But actual facts that support the case.

        Wasnt asking for HW only but thats cool that you think Ali was the greatest HW.

        So what im asking is...Who do you think the best all around fighter is P4P that has ever lived?

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        • #74
          Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
          lol There is NO such fighter? Its a question you cannot honestly answer because you dont know much about the history of the sport? (thats a question)

          Its an opinion. Based on your knowledge of the sport. Not popular belief. But actual facts that support the case.

          Wasnt asking for HW only but thats cool that you think Ali was the greatest HW.

          So what im asking is...Who do you think the best all around fighter is P4P that has ever lived?
          Fu ck the written word. If I can't see it and JUDGE FOR MYSELF, it ain't worth mentioning.

          Let's put it this way, the GOAT isn't Pac and if there's a list, May should rightfully be miles ahead of him.

          As you can see, I'm not sporting a May avi but YOU ARE sporting a Pac pic. Are you suggesting you're a more unbiased fan than me ?!?!?

          I already answered your question and it won't change.
          Last edited by Curtis Harper; 12-22-2019, 01:05 AM.

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          • #75
            My favorite moment was right before the margarito fight they showed Manny stretching his jaw while Freddie trembled with Parkinson's. It gave me the chills, these 2 ordinary guys who achieved greatness by believing in each other becoming great and possibly on the ride of a lifetime to the top. This was the epic summit for Pacquiao, mr margarito at 154! I am super glad he effed up Margo's eye so bad that he did his compadre cotto and stablemate and friend a sincere favour! Cotto is my favorite fighter, but c'mon he put it out there that pac was the greatest in the world after his good stoppage loss. Margaritos machoness would never let down. Anything less than death he would take as much as he could in that fight! Pac said cotto was the hardest fighter he ever fought because it was even on the scoreboard s after 6 rounds plus he gave Pac-Man a cauliflower ear (like in mma) anyway my favorite personal fight of time was cotto margarito 2 but let's admit it, Pacquiao was the person who layed down the groundwork for that! Mabuhay!

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Boogie Mans View Post
              1. Cant knock everyone out all the time when you are fighting elite fighters.
              2. Manny Pacquiao has been fighting pro for over 25yrs. Actively. No retirements. 71 rounds and 486 rounds.
              3. Started of as LFW-SWW amd only 8 time world champ in histroy
              4. Been KOd and loss some decisons. Only to come back and win and STILL be a chanpion and the biggest draw in boxing.
              5. Has NEVER been found dirty by any PED testing ever.
              And finally #6...this one is important. You dont know ***** about boxing.
              Gotta love how they throw in his early losses KNOWING he was a malnourished fighter in those days.

              Stallone apparently already has the rights to make his biopic in America... They are waiting for him to retire and/when he runs for President of the Philippines, considering Duterte has openly made him his heir apparent... that is in 2022 also coincides with when Manny says he is going to retire.

              When its all said and done Pac will be considered Top 10 all time in boxing.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Curtis Harper View Post
                Fu ck the written word. If I can see it and JUDGE FOR MYSELF, it ain't worth mentioning.

                Let's put it this way, the GOAT isn't Pac and if there's a list, May should rightfully be miles ahead of him.

                As you can see, I'm not sporting a May avi but YOU ARE sporting a Pac pic. Are you suggesting you're a more unbiased fan than me ?!?!?

                I already answered your question and it won't change.
                I just wanted to make sure. Its plain to see now.

                A. You think an Avi dictates a favorite fighter. Wrong

                B. And you trash the history of the sport by saying *** what was written that if you were not there than it dont matter because you would have to judge yourself (that all of the historians and legends themselves are beneath- you...lmfao like who the *** are you!!! (hold that thought)

                I can see why you think Floyd is the greatest that ever lived. With this mentality mentioned above has to leave one wondering if you also can read a page out of Harry Potter. Because my intellect and knowledge on this sport of boxing far supersedes yours which means i cant hold an intelligent conversation with you. Not because i disagree with you. But for the reasons in A.& B. above! If you think like that its the difference between chess and checkers.

                Despite your lack of knowledge. And your opinion. Manny was fighter of the decade and fighter of the year three times in that decade for a reason. Despite your opinion those are the facts! And they were agreed on by many Writers Experts and high appreciated novels of the sport. Like the Joe Louis FOTD award. High achievement for any fighter to reach. You probably dont know much about that though or care...well lol because you being the great almighty and you wasnt there when that happen. So it dont matter lol!

                Comparing Floyd to Manny P4P is like comparing a tadpole to a whale. when it comes to the more superior fighter. Manny being more Superior. Despite a lack luster loss to Floyd. Yeah...that right. Floyd nor Manny did NOTHING to woo anyone. Floyd ran and held and Manny didnt throw any punches. Nor did Floyd. And their Punch output Landed and Thrown were the lowest in their entire career. (hmmmmmmm) Think about that
                Mr. Unbiased

                Yes and He is still fighting and his Legacy isnt over yet. And most of the Experts that you claim dont matter are saying that in fact Manny is working himself to being not just one of but THE best fighter that has ever lived. Of course these are just experts who Follow Boxing for a living and eat shlt and breathe the sport from its birth until now....WHAT WOULD THEY KNOW.

                I get it Floyd made a lot of money. And hes undefeated. To a guy like you that must mean hes the best ever. Not Manny because he got losses on his record. lol Yet you claim Ali is the best HW ever...who also has losses on his record. Who also fought a lot of Bums also in his career or should i say not worthy opponents. Why dont you shlt on his resume and Why isnt Marciano Not the best HW ever to live...HE was undefeated. and a HW. (i can imagine why you wouldn't think that though lol)

                Mr unbiased its been fun. We dont need to debate anymore. tadpole and whale thing ya know. Feel free to get the last word in. At this point i dont care nor does it matter. You labeled your knowledge and your opinion already. A zebra doesnt change its stripe.

                oh BTW Manny isnt my ATF fighter. He actually like #3 on my
                list. The first two are dead. But that dont matter to you...thats history. I will let you know...Arturo Gatti is my first. Sweet Pea PW is my 2nd and Manny is my 3rd of all time. Personally
                Doesnt mean i think AG and PW are better just my favorite win lose or draw.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
                  I just wanted to make sure. Its plain to see now.

                  A. You think an Avi dictates a favorite fighter. Wrong

                  B. And you trash the history of the sport by saying *** what was written that if you were not there than it dont matter because you would have to judge yourself (that all of the historians and legends themselves are beneath- you...lmfao like who the *** are you!!! (hold that thought)

                  I can see why you think Floyd is the greatest that ever lived. With this mentality mentioned above has to leave one wondering if you also can read a page out of Harry Potter. Because my intellect and knowledge on this sport of boxing far supersedes yours which means i cant hold an intelligent conversation with you. Not because i disagree with you. But for the reasons in A.& B. above! If you think like that its the difference between chess and checkers.

                  Despite your lack of knowledge. And your opinion. Manny was fighter of the decade and fighter of the year three times in that decade for a reason. Despite your opinion those are the facts! And they were agreed on by many Writers Experts and high appreciated novels of the sport. Like the Joe Louis FOTD award. High achievement for any fighter to reach. You probably dont know much about that though or care...well lol because you being the great almighty and you wasnt there when that happen. So it dont matter lol!

                  Comparing Floyd to Manny P4P is like comparing a tadpole to a whale. when it comes to the more superior fighter. Manny being more Superior. Despite a lack luster loss to Floyd. Yeah...that right. Floyd nor Manny did NOTHING to woo anyone. Floyd ran and held and Manny didnt throw any punches. Nor did Floyd. And their Punch output Landed and Thrown were the lowest in their entire career. (hmmmmmmm) Think about that
                  Mr. Unbiased

                  Yes and He is still fighting and his Legacy isnt over yet. And most of the Experts that you claim dont matter are saying that in fact Manny is working himself to being not just one of but THE best fighter that has ever lived. Of course these are just experts who Follow Boxing for a living and eat shlt and breathe the sport from its birth until now....WHAT WOULD THEY KNOW.

                  I get it Floyd made a lot of money. And hes undefeated. To a guy like you that must mean hes the best ever. Not Manny because he got losses on his record. lol Yet you claim Ali is the best HW ever...who also has losses on his record. Who also fought a lot of Bums also in his career or should i say not worthy opponents. Why dont you shlt on his resume and Why isnt Marciano Not the best HW ever to live...HE was undefeated. and a HW. (i can imagine why you wouldn't think that though lol)

                  Mr unbiased its been fun. We dont need to debate anymore. tadpole and whale thing ya know. Feel free to get the last word in. At this point i dont care nor does it matter. You labeled your knowledge and your opinion already. A zebra doesnt change its stripe.

                  oh BTW Manny isnt my ATF fighter. He actually like #3 on my
                  list. The first two are dead. But that dont matter to you...thats history. I will let you know...Arturo Gatti is my first. Sweet Pea PW is my 2nd and Manny is my 3rd of all time. Personally
                  Doesnt mean i think AG and PW are better just my favorite win lose or draw.
                  Are you saying you're rocking a Pac pic because he's not one of your most beloved fighters (let's also ignore the nickname you chose ) ???? Your explanation in A is a joke. Cong****.

                  Historians opinions are limited. They have nothing to compare it to. That's like saying automobiles from those days were the best that's ever been made !!!!

                  Historians can also be part of the corruption. If you think boxing today is corrupt, you have no idea just how corrupt it was back in those days. I don't want to READ about how great a guy was and I definitely don't want to be told who I should think is the GOAT.

                  If you need to be told what to think, I won't stop you. Enjoy being led by the butt by historians.

                  I won't waste any time with the rest of your biased drivel

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                  • #79
                    ''#1 Floyd Hater''

                    Figures

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Curtis Harper View Post
                      Are you saying you're rocking a Pac pic because he's not one of your most beloved fighters (let's also ignore the nickname you chose ) ???? Your explanation in A is a joke. Cong****.

                      Historians opinions are limited. They have nothing to compare it to. That's like saying automobiles from those days were the best that's ever been made !!!!

                      Historians can also be part of the corruption. If you think boxing today is corrupt, you have no idea just how corrupt it was back in those days. I don't want to READ about how great a guy was and I definitely don't want to be told who I should think is the GOAT.

                      If you need to be told what to think, I won't stop you. Enjoy being led by the butt by historians.

                      I won't waste any time with the rest of your biased drivel
                      case and point
                      Originally posted by Curtis Harper View Post
                      ''#1 Floyd Hater''

                      Figures
                      successful as hell

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