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  • Originally posted by OnlyBeingHonest View Post
    I remember when flat purses were offered and posters said they were ****** not to take it.
    Exactly. I never understood that. A flat rate being offered implies that any % that could be worked out would prolly be estimated to be worth much more. The opponent would have to bank on the PPV to tank to look smart taking the flat rate. 50million is a ton of money and may be way more than a fighter has made but if in the end if it ends up being only %10 of what the opponent made it looks pretty bad. If the promoter really thinks there’s risk of the fight underperforming then why wouldnt he share sum of the risk with the opponent? Of course the whole time the promoter also has to promote and sell the fight and tell everyone how big it’s gonna be. This only ensures why someone would want to take a %. That way he’s also invested in promoting the fight. It takes two to tango and the Germans have a word “gestalt” and it means that a perceived whole is greater than the sum of its parts. This describes boxing superfights perfectly. When a fighter turns down 50 extra large a lot of people will call him an as*hole and say it’s way more than he’s ever made. Ask the same people what % they think the same fighter should get, and I bet it ends up being more than the flat rate every time. Before I get jumped on, I’m talking mostly about the superfights dynamic. Offering flat rates on this scale of fights is just a way to postpone things. Precedent has shown it’s not going to be accepted. It’s not like promoters offer a % at the same time.

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    • Originally posted by doom_specialist View Post
      A supposed grown man needlessly insulting another person because his favorite fighter gets honest criticism. The irony indeed lol
      Even more irony.

      "Needlessly" "Honest criticism"

      Grown men insult sub-humans all the time when it's just and right. Those who are devoid of reality and clearly don't understand the definition of irony will be unable to ever understand.

      Wow.

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      • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
        Wilder is a bum who doesn't generate any money. AJ does. So why would Wilder be paid 75% when he doesn't come close to earning what AJ does?

        Please get the help you and your twisted country desperately needs.
        You live in a country full of f**gs and *********s. Die in a fire.

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        • Thank you, Eddie. It may have come in late but not too late for the fans to look forward to the mega fight. Next year is fine with me.

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          • Originally posted by chicken- View Post
            Why is Eddie Hearn saying he now deserves 50/50 if any of that is true? Where is your proof they cut ticket prices by 75%? There were plenty of empty seats in Saudi Arabia from what I saw. Most people assumed Wilder would just KO Ortiz again, nobody was really interested in that fight so I don't really care how they promoted it or who bought it. AJ saying he wanted the fight was nonsense, he could've agreed to the 50 million, he could've demanded Hearn make the fight, like he supposedly is now.

            Why do AJ fans refuse to admit the 50 million dollar offer was real? Even when he does an interview explaining exactly why he REJECTED the offer, cuz he's Eddie Hearn and DAZN's b**ch and they would've taken a large chunk of that 50 mil.

            https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/4...whyte-rematch/
            Those things can't be true due to Hearn offering 50/50? WTF. What would any of those facts have to do with a percentage split offered? Explain yourself you complete mad person as this is f3cking insane. Those facts don't rest on whether Hearn offers 50/50 or not.

            Hearn never said Wilder was worth the money. Can't you read? He just acknowledges that that is what it will take to get the coward into the ring. Hearn clearly states they're not worth that much money. But it's not surprising you failed at a simple task.

            Search Google to see that Wilder's tickets for the Ortiz rematch were cut by 75%. All facts against your lies and delusions.

            Most of the tickets were sold in Saudi. But what do you expect for a country that doesn't have any boxing background? It was all about the money put up by the Saudi's.

            You didn't see any empty seats in Saudi. Not once did it look like it wasn't full. Unless you want to tell at which point in the fight your lie has any resemblance of truth?

            Every moron like yourself cared very much how the Ortiz rematch was promoted. You all thought with the work FOX was putting in, it would do pretty good numbers. That fight was being pushed everywhere on their channels. It still laughably failed like it always has and will. The morons are now back at it with the promotion FOX will do to make this fight "Huge". You know what's coming don't you when it's all said and done? More of the same. But you should be used to it by now.

            The 50 Mill that had BT sport putting in most money even though AJ had a contract with SKY and would have meant he had to pay about 30 Mill to fight on BT sport? Or maybe Finkle saying they had to accept the deal without seeing any conditions. Maybe refusing to sit down and discuss it and cancelling all meetings instead. GTFOH with this American level stench.

            AJ wasn't even with DAZN when that fake offer was made. You lose again, b1tch.

            Keep on trying to see if you get anything right and don't make a complete fool of yourself.

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            • Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
              You live in a country full of f**gs and *********s. Die in a fire.
              Your country is an abomination because of the excuses for life in it. You have no souls or morals. The world doesn't hate you for nothing. You country is a mental asylum.

              So we have more gay people in the UK than the US has? More acts of terror happen in the UK than the mad house in the US?

              Even your insults are ironic you disgusting worthless piece of sub-human garbage.

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              • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                And what is he supposed to be jealous about? two clowns who make nothing when he's got the cash cow?

                Latina teen? You need help.
                Wilder and Fury are making nothing? lol You need help counting money!

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                • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                  Those things can't be true due to Hearn offering 50/50? WTF. What would any of those facts have to do with a percentage split offered? Explain yourself you complete mad person as this is f3cking insane. Those facts don't rest on whether Hearn offers 50/50 or not.

                  Hearn never said Wilder was worth the money. Can't you read? He just acknowledges that that is what it will take to get the coward into the ring. Hearn clearly states they're not worth that much money. But it's not surprising you failed at a simple task.

                  Search Google to see that Wilder's tickets for the Ortiz rematch were cut by 75%. All facts against your lies and delusions.

                  Most of the tickets were sold in Saudi. But what do you expect for a country that doesn't have any boxing background? It was all about the money put up by the Saudi's.

                  You didn't see any empty seats in Saudi. Not once did it look like it wasn't full. Unless you want to tell at which point in the fight your lie has any resemblance of truth?

                  Every moron like yourself cared very much how the Ortiz rematch was promoted. You all thought with the work FOX was putting in, it would do pretty good numbers. That fight was being pushed everywhere on their channels. It still laughably failed like it always has and will. The morons are now back at it with the promotion FOX will do to make this fight "Huge". You know what's coming don't you when it's all said and done? More of the same. But you should be used to it by now.

                  The 50 Mill that had BT sport putting in most money even though AJ had a contract with SKY and would have meant he had to pay about 30 Mill to fight on BT sport? Or maybe Finkle saying they had to accept the deal without seeing any conditions. Maybe refusing to sit down and discuss it and cancelling all meetings instead. GTFOH with this American level stench.

                  AJ wasn't even with DAZN when that fake offer was made. You lose again, b1tch.

                  Keep on trying to see if you get anything right and don't make a complete fool of yourself.
                  Eddie Hearn's owns words, you ****** c*nt: "Especially the winner of that fight, Wilder-Fury, does deserve the 50-50. But they never did at the time [a year ago], it wasn't even close back then - but things change."

                  I can easily lump your rhetoric in with all AJ nuthuggers on here, but sorry to tell you I didn't think the Ortiz fight would do good numbers and I thought it was silly for him to even fight Ortiz given how he got hurt in the first fight.

                  I don't see jack diddly **** on google about reduced ticket prices but I'll take your word for it, it doesn't change anything else I said. 20 million dollars not enough to unify the titles when that's all you care about supposedly?

                  AJ was offered 50 million. Wilder was offered 12.5 with upside and would've had to fight in the UK making that upside less. Wilder is a coward for not accepting but it's ok for AJ to decline cuz he'll only make 20 million? Sounds like a coward who isn't so confident he'll win to me.

                  Can you tell me what AJ was supposed to sign if he had NO TERMS? Was it a blank piece of paper with a signature line on it? Like wtf are you talking about. How about you at least admit the offer was real and prove to me not every AJ fan is in complete denial.

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                  • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                    Even more irony.

                    "Needlessly" "Honest criticism"

                    Grown men insult sub-humans all the time when it's just and right. Those who are devoid of reality and clearly don't understand the definition of irony will be unable to ever understand.

                    Wow.
                    And Wilder would have had to fight 2 guys whether you like it or not. Sub humans resort to ad hominem arguments when they lose the factual argument. Now you're talking about irony lol

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                    • Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
                      You say it’s for hw supremacy more than money, then go on to say wilder would have been “forced” to take a fight with Ruiz and lose a bunch of ppv revenue. Wouldn’t that have been a fight for the undisputed title? That’s hw supremacy, is it not?
                      But isn't the deal for Joshua and Wilder? Isn't that why you just offer a straight up deal, like the one Wilder made? Like the one Hearn just made to Charlo? You can't see the problem with that a little?

                      The allure of the deal is that you get Joshua at the end. Yeah you want all of the belts, but you're a prizefighter too. The loss would have meant losing a lot of prestige and money, because Joshua looks better on your resume than Ruiz.
                      Last edited by doom_specialist; 12-20-2019, 12:53 AM.

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