Comments Thread For: Hearn: 50-50 Deal is Now Possible For Joshua vs. Wilder or Fury

[OldTerry]

After Wilder accepted 15 million flat to go to the UK and Hearn refused to do the fight next, Wilder said he would never consider the fight ever again until it was 50/50.

So give Wilder credit for going out there, raising his profile, and making himself worth 50/50.

Also Wilder has proven to be a man of his word.

[youbeight]

ONLY If Wilder wins, if Wilder loses his rematch he's done. Without leverage Wilder gets a flat fee because that's all the match will pay for. It's the numbers not the promoters or PBC or anything else.

BTW....No, Shelly Finkle did a horrifically terrible job promoting what should have been the easiest heavyweight to promote. If Shelly was even a half decent promoter Wilder would have all the belts + double his net worth and still have Fury and everyone else out there for a few hundred million more. Finkle is lining his own pockets in the safest, longest route possible. A wannabe Bob Aurm lite without the brains.

Sounds like leveraging for your client. Shelly basically applied Nash equilibrium to wilders career from 2015 to now. I think we all know the 50/50 is dependent on a W. Sucks Povetkin wanted to stick a needle in his a$$. Think that W would have gotten wilder a bit more $$ in fights since that situation.

[Dagomba]

Promoters say things when they don't even intend for them to happen and ******s gobble it up. We know Joshua has mandatory defenses to fulfill. I doubt this happens next year.

[Ake-Dawg]

Seriously? This again? Hearn offered 120 million total. It was 20 million for Breazeale, 50 million for AJ and another 50 million guaranteed for a rematch. In the end, nobody in Wilder's camp denied that. What they said was that Wilder could make more doing other things which was a way to stall and gain leverage and it looks like it paid off.

Paying either Wilder or Fury 50% today would be crazy because it wouldn't make financial sense. Neither fighter draws enough on their own to warrant that kind of money.

The Wilder Fury rematch will most certainly be successful and Hearn knows it because redemption sells and there is a real strong promoter involved.

Yes the rematch will be successful but that said, Hearn
is offering 50%..to the WINNER of Wilder/Fury. The WINNER will have elevated themselves enough to draw the financial support to cover their end of the 50%.

It's not complicated, it's not fandom...it's math, simple math. It's a business, it's math.

What they said was that signing the deal offered was signing over control of Wilders career to DAZN. After which Skipper acknowledged that he botched the deal by rushing.

I think in an effort to sloppily add validity to a weak argument, you Joshualites purposefully ignore the fact that once Joshua lost to Ruiz, the $120 offer (2 fights plus 2 AJ fights) was moot as AJ was locked into a rematch with Ruiz.

As it stands, every Joshua only offer has been undervalued and Hearn just acknowledged it in that interview indirectly.

[factsarenice]

Do you just complain because your programed? Wilder has to first WIN or he gets nothing.

There is no question that AJ wants Wilder, everyone on the planet but the cult members acknowledge that. Wilder on the other hand, walking from 120 million, doesn't instill a lot of confidence.

I'll tell you one more thing, if Wilder loses he's done, there is no rematch clause and Fury will jump at the chance to fight AJ for 50% of a record breaking payday.

Scientology sucks...you should quit.

A lot of people are commenting as if Hearn offered a 50-50 deal in this article, when he just about said the opposite.

"In my opinion, I still don't necessarily think they are worth 50-50 - but now I can see the argument. And it's going to get to a stage where they will only take the fight if it's 50-50. And that's an AJ decision, that's not an Eddie Hearn decision. I don't go in there and say 'this is how it's going to be, it's 50-50 and it's done.' I'll tell AJ - 'this is the only way that you'll make this fight, is if you give them 50-50, what do you want to do?' And in my opinion, and I don't want to put words in his mouth because AJ is his own boss, but he wants those fights so badly - that [50-50] will probably be the deal."

[doom_specialist]

Specialist...more like Scientologist. Ruiz was a live dog that beat the champ just like Fury beat Wilder so what's your point cult boy?

How easily people forget that Ruiz beat Parker and got screwed. More over, the fight was originally supposed to be Wilder, then Miller, then Ortiz and Ruiz was the only fighter with the courage to actually fight. 20 to 1 made him 20 million in 1 outing that is.

If you wanted your comment to look objective, know that you killed that dream where the bold starts. 20-1 doesn't represent "live dog" in any part of the world you can name, except that malfunctioning piece of gray matter in your head. As I try to remind you political fans, calling me names won't rewrite history. Ruiz was a 5 week replacement that got picked so that Joshua could show off in his American debut, and it backfired because Joshua didn't take him seriously. Credit to him for getting the win, but he was no more live than Hassim Rahman or anyone else who managed to land a punch on a guy that no one expected them to beat. Credit to Ruiz for doing it and changing his life, but let's not go making him something he's not. Partisan Wilder fans try to do that with Luis Ortiz, and it's just as lame.

[doom_specialist]

Do you just complain because your programed? Wilder has to first WIN or he gets nothing.

There is no question that AJ wants Wilder, everyone on the planet but the cult members acknowledge that. Wilder on the other hand, walking from 120 million, doesn't instill a lot of confidence.

I'll tell you one more thing, if Wilder loses he's done, there is no rematch clause and Fury will jump at the chance to fight AJ for 50% of a record breaking payday.

Scientology sucks...you should quit.

You just assume that I follow Wilder and nothing else, even though I get around these forums quite a bit and talk about several different fighters. Whenever you see a criticism of Anthony Joshua, you immediately leap to action while calling other people programmed. I just have what I believe to be valid criticisms of the man and his team after the last few years that have gone by. I'm also willing to stay and talk about it, instead of just throwing bad cheap shots like you do.

You're so happy about a deal that would have required Wilder to fight at least 2 other people, but you hate that Wilder offered $50M and Hearn and Hearn Sr. confirmed it. You also completely forget that Joshua lost, and Wilder would be on his 3rd opponent by now. He also wouldn't be rematching Fury (which is more important than money to me). I've said more than once that I think that Fury beat Wilder (though history doesn't care about my opinion), and that Joshua is scared to fight that guy as well, but you automatically go back to bad-mouthing Wilder. Is it because I have Michael Jordan as an avatar? Are you sure I'm the one "programmed"?

[OldTerry]

Well there it is, 50/50. The man threw down the gauntlet. Will anyone pick,go silent or worse, shift to another manufactured excuse? Time will tell.

What's your excuse now?

I don't think Hearn actually made an offer. Sounded to me like he was speculating on the good possibility that Joshua would accept a 50/50 split when it came time to actually make the fights. I think if Wilder beats Fury he'll gladly take a Joshua fight (the easier fight) before doing a Fury trilogy.

[OldTerry]

Cash out by offering Wilder 50-50? Having to give Wilder 50% could quite possibly end up with Joshua having to take a pay cut to get that fight made.

As far as im concerned Anything over 30% to Wilder is a very good offer. Financial pull wise Joshua and Wilder are like Floyd Mayweather and Victor Ortiz. They are miles and miles apart. Wilder is a B side to Joshua's A side by a big distance. He is technically a C side. Like Brighton.

I don't agree with your opinion but that is beside the point. The deciding factor on the Wilder/Joshua fight happening is that Wilder gets what HE thinks he is worth. Say he's only worth 30% like you say but he believes he's worth 50% then good chance it takes 50% for him to take the fight. Like him or not Wilder is a stubborn man of pride.

[Laligalaliga]

lol it's hilarious that it's now come full circle and even after Wilder lost to Fury in the eyes of most, is now suddenly worthy of 50/50.

I was saying Wilder should've been offered 60/40 while AJ's fans were busy ignoring Eddie Hearn's own words and claiming the $50 million offer wasn't real. AJ should've taken it then, he declined the (real) offer and now he actually wants the fight so real offers are being made (although as others have pointed out, conveniently after Wilder has already agreed to 2 fights with Fury this year so this isn't happening until at least next december.

That offer is still nothing but a twitter offer.
Non of wilder reps would sit with Eddie to show proof even when Eddie flew all the way to NY.