Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Joshua-Ruiz II, Crawford, Harrison-Charlo II

[aboutfkntime]

Being better and having a better resume are different.

I have been saying that for YEARS

I say that every month when the P4P update is released

traditional P4P was NEVER a resume comparison... it was always a style comparison

not sure when that changed... well actually, according to Cliff Rold it has not changed... I guess the casuals today are even less-educated now than in the past

and, YES... of course a fighter needs to have ticked certain boxes to put himself in that position

good luck with that one bread ^^

[aboutfkntime]

Great assessment for T Crawford...Thank you for clarifying "Being better and having a better resume are different" Understanding talent, most would agree, the current PBC WW's won't make the distance with T Crawford, it's night & day when you're able to recognize talent..

knowledgeable posters/writers have been saying that for YEARS

[aboutfkntime]

Totally agree. Tonight will be my third time seeing Crawford fight live. I attend many fights but for those who haven't seen Bud fight in person then you are certainly missing out. The whole P4P list is just way too subjective. IMHO Crawford will go down as an all time great and hall of famer. Those are the lists that really matter!

I am a HUGE Crawford fan

but yea, no chance unless he improves his competition

P4P is one thing... and as bread confirmed, does not require a HOF resume... but greatness, is something entirely different... for greatness, you MUST have wins in the bank

P4P is horribly over-rated... plenty of P4P fighters have lost

the recipe for greatness, and the recipe for P4P... are completely different

[aboutfkntime]

No. But at the same time I can’t move fighters up over guys who have fought and beat better ranked fighters.

for P4P... sure you can

that is why Crawford and Lomachenko rank higher than Canelo

that is why Pacquiao is not a top P4P fighter, despite having the best resume in boxing by far

for greatness... no, you can't

[aboutfkntime]

P4P vs ATG

to clarify...

P4P is subjective... and is based mostly on style/skills/form

it is only... " opinion "

which is why 12-fight Lomachenko is ranked higher than Pacquiao/Canelo

but greatness, is NOT subjective... your "opinion" is not worth a pinch of shlt, so keep it to yourself

a fighter either, has those wins in the bank... or, he does not

[CaptainWalrus]

I'll be tuning in to see Crawford's switch hitting. His trainer Bomac is a funny dude.

[Shadoww702]

for P4P... sure you can

that is why Crawford and Lomachenko rank higher than Canelo

that is why Pacquiao is not a top P4P fighter, despite having the best resume in boxing by far

for greatness... no, you can't

My only issue is when these P4P guys fight C class fighters ALL will/should look GREAT! It’s when a fight is 50/50 tells me who is the best.

AJ was ranked top 10 anyone think that now???

Broner made the list at one time. And Hamed Like GGG was supposed to walkthrough Canelo and Barrera...

[Tecnoworld]

Finally someone saying the same.things I did, about AJ vs Ruiz. Especially this sentence "I was screaming for him to throw punches when AJ tried to clinch". I was mad about this...Ruiz could break the clinch and ko aj. One good punch would have been enough for the cristal jawed aj.

[aboutfkntime]

My only issue is when these P4P guys fight C class fighters ALL will/should look GREAT! It’s when a fight is 50/50 tells me who is the best.

AJ was ranked top 10 anyone think that now???

Broner made the list at one time. And Hamed Like GGG was supposed to walkthrough Canelo and Barrera...

yep, I hear ya... fair call

P4P is a little over-rated

and, Barrera and Canelo do that to everyone

Crawford and Lomachenko are about as real as you can get

[Shadoww702]

yep, I hear ya... fair call

P4P is a little over-rated

and, Barrera and Canelo do that to everyone

Crawford and Lomachenko are about as real as you can get

You notice i have zero issues with anyone that has Crawford and/or Loma higher than Canelo? I ask why but it’s like you said subjective.

Loma about to fight Teo next and Canelo Saunders while poor Crawford has no one.

I was hoping he would move up and fight Munguia who is the WBO 154 champ but he’s vacating that belt. Maybe Crawford/Adames???