Comments Thread For: Joshua: Fight With Wilder-Fury Winner Must Happen in 2020

[Articulateboxin]

It should happen in 2020.

I think a 50/50 purse split on PPV gets it done. But I'm not sure if the Joshua side will be willing to cooperate with that.

That's such a tall order though! AJ's earning ceiling is 300-500% higher than Wilder's, it's so difficult to justify a 50-50. AJ even sold out 20k seats in the US, Wilder sold 7k in his last fight and that's in his own country. It's also difficult to overlook the fact that AJ unified the titles at the earliest opportunity, Wilder's only notable win in his entire title rein is Ortiz.

I think Wilder will have to come to DAZN and AJ will need to give him the 50-50 in return.

[Inspired]

Wilder vs Fury did 325 k buys in the US, and 450k in the United kingdom. His fight with Ortiz has been reported to be over 275k. Wilder is the most popular American fighter right now, based on facts, not propaganda that's continuously regurgitated on these forums. It is undisputed that the US is where the big money is at, this came directly out of Hearns mouth as well. AJ makes more fighting in a 15k seat arena in America than he makes in a 90k stadium in UK. Either way, this can be handled easily, since you and all AJ's fans believe the US market is small and inconsequential for AJ, why dont you guys argue for AJ to allow Wilder to keep all US generated revenue, while AJ keeps all the UK revenues, and then well see who makes more off the fight when it's all said and done. Do you think they would be willing to do that?

1) Wilder vs Fury did 325 k buys in the US, and 450k in the United kingdom
did it? 450k buys in the uk is atrocious for a so called superfight. AJ did just 1.6m ppv buys vs ruiz in the uk...and dazn are talking about record numbers on their platform.

2) Wilder is the most popular American fighter right now, based on facts, not propaganda that's continuously regurgitated on these forums.
'american fighter' has no relevance. Canelo is the big dog in the US because the american mexicans watch him. In fact if you look at google trends, AJ ranks higher than Wilder now in the US by a long way.
these figured are now skewed because of dazn having a completely diff model..but he certainly makes far far more money than wilder in the US, so someone values him far more than Wilder.
3) I never once claimed the US market is smaller than the UK. It is bigger, May-Pac did 4m+ buys on ppv..that is mega.
AJ gets paid more by dazn than sky sports.
My point is that guy was projecting 1m ppv buys on showtime...arguing that it should be on ppv and not dazn. However dazn's business model is very diff, as i said they also monetise big data and have international subs. $70m generated off ppv is less than what dazn are able to offer.
that's my basic point, that the fight should be on dazn.
That's why i also questioned why he wants to pay $70 when he could watch it for $20.

4) where did this idea of 'wilder should take the US revenue' come from? why the **** should he? as i said AJ is more popular already in the US, he's the driving force behind the interest in that fight. take aj out of it and wilder does poor numbers.
Spence vs porter did better than wilder vs fury...and they promoted the **** out of wilder vs fury.

This would be a diff story if wilder was generating huge numbers, but he hasn't done. His biggest offer was from Dazn...and that was to get the aj fight done.

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[Matrixboxer37]

Fury vs Wilder 2 then winner gets AJ hope this happens in 2020

[The plunger man]

Wilder vs Fury did 325 k buys in the US, and 450k in the United kingdom. His fight with Ortiz has been reported to be over 275k. Wilder is the most popular American fighter right now, based on facts, not propaganda that's continuously regurgitated on these forums. It is undisputed that the US is where the big money is at, this came directly out of Hearns mouth as well. AJ makes more fighting in a 15k seat arena in America than he makes in a 90k stadium in UK. Either way, this can be handled easily, since you and all AJ's fans believe the US market is small and inconsequential for AJ, why dont you guys argue for AJ to allow Wilder to keep all US generated revenue, while AJ keeps all the UK revenues, and then well see who makes more off the fight when it's all said and done. Do you think they would be willing to do that?

Joshua just earned 85 million dollars and that’s more than wilder or fury have earned in there entire career , that fight right there has just proven there are bigger riches to earn than the USA.
Take your head out of your ass and go get a passport.
Tell wilder to do that as well if he wants to meet the money man of the division in AJ

[Jkp]

This guy is an idiot, just forget about the winner. They are already tied up in rematches. They would “Run it back” and do what they did the last time. Wilder himself has said it many times, he is past that fight. You don’t turn down a 100m if you want to fight.

Fury I think would take the fight once he is a free agent, but right now I think him and Wilder would just continue to fight each other and whoever else they can get.

Joshua should concentrate on his mandatory challenges.

100m obviously didn't involve AJ fight.
AJ had committed to Ruiz/ Miller and rematches, and pulev too it now seems.

When was aj supposed to fit in this imaginary 100m wilder fight?

[Ray*]

"Wilder himself has said it many times, he is past that fight. You don’t turn down a 100m if you want to fight."


So this should read you dont turn down $100 million dollars if you want to fight 3 times and two different people, correct? Or, since you were talking about specifically the AJ fight, shouldn't it then say Wilder turned down 80 million?

No am not talking about a specific fight. He turned down a 100m dollar deal.

That was the facts, no name was signed to that 100m offer.

The reports were not he turned down 80m from DAZN. So GTOH is with your fan girl BS.

[Ray*]

100m obviously didn't involve AJ fight.
AJ had committed to Ruiz/ Miller and rematches, and pulev too it now seems.

When was aj supposed to fit in this imaginary 100m wilder fight?

I don’t care if it involved Jesus, fact was he turned down a 100m deal. Someone that wants a fight doesn’t do that without coming back to negotiate a figure.

When did AJ offer Wilder 100m? You seem to think AJ was the one offering Wilder that.. Please enlighten us...Joker Parker.

[Articulateboxin]

This is simply since aj was very well managed as the prodigy kid and top fighters were willing ti fight him for big money.

He sure is a good boxer but so is dubois, joyce, hrgovich, ajagba, yoka, but they have much a harder time to fight top ranked guys.

This is very true and doesn't get taken into consideration enough actually.

Though i'm not sure Wilder lacked opportunity, more so his team didn't want to risk him losing until he improved. I really wish the Povetkin fight had happened, it would give us a much better idea of how good he really is.

[BoxOfficer]

Hearn is trying to box WBC and it's champ into a corner and cover the exits with Josha and Whyte. Fair play to him, it's what any shrewd businessman would do in his shoes. Only questions are; will it be Wilder or Fury that has to make a decision on Matchroom opponents? Will that fighter simply quack their way to "franchise champ" to avoid being in the away corner on a Matchroom card?

Exactly.... Well said, bro.

[Armchairhero]

If Aj was serious, he wouldn't be on Twitter. He would instruct Eddie to make the offer.
AJ's got a rediculous mando against another past it old man in Pulev & an intriguing mando with Usyk to get through.
Only fighting twice a year causes congestion. What's the point of collecting belts for pointless mandatories? Oh yeah. Milking casual Londoners who think he boxed like Muhammad Ali ����
2021 possibly. Yawn.

Pointless... more pointless than stiverne 2 and Ortiz 2, you have to be kidding?