Comments Thread For: Joshua: Once Wilder-Fury is Over, They Can Start Mentioning Me

[Ake-Dawg]

Fury won't need to make adjustments. He will come in much stronger and fitter after having more time to recuperate from his long lay-off and massive weight loss.

Wilder can't make adjustments. He will be exactly the same as he's been for the past 2/3 years. I think Fury will stop him next time around.

Did Fury look stronger and fitter versus Wallin and the other undefeated bum? Even still, how will being stronger and fitter prevent the knockdowns when fatigue wasn't the cause for them in the first fight.

Also, we saw Wilder make adjustments in fight against Fury. He made adjustments versus Ortiz and Stiverne as well.

[kafkod]

Did Fury look stronger and fitter versus Wallin and the other undefeated bum? Even still, how will being stronger and fitter prevent the knockdowns when fatigue wasn't the cause for them in the first fight.

Also, we saw Wilder make adjustments in fight against Fury. He made adjustments versus Ortiz and Stiverne as well.

You don't get it that being stronger and fitter makes a fighter less likely to get dropped in a fight?

Really?

Fury did look stronger and fitter against Schwartz and Wallin.

Wallin is a good prospect who would probably beat Ortiz and would school Stiverne. Fury was unlucky to get cut so badly early in the fight against him and that definitely affected his performance, but he still won by a mile on the cards.

Like I said before, knocking out 2 old men you have already beaten once, who have done nothing since you beat them the first time except look like shit against journeymen, proves nothing.

[OnlytheTruth]

Fury won't need to make adjustments. He will come in much stronger and fitter after having more time to recuperate from his long lay-off and massive weight loss.

Wilder can't make adjustments. He will be exactly the same as he's been for the past 2/3 years. I think Fury will stop him next time around.

Agree with this, except Fury stopping Wilder. For all of Wilder's faults, his chin seems alright - but that might be because it hasn't actually been fully tested.

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[kafkod]

Agree with this, except Fury stopping Wilder. For all of Wilder's faults, his chin seems alright - but that might be because it hasn't actually been fully tested.

Fury has a 40lb+ weight advantage over Wilder and knows how to fight close up, which Wilder can't do. Wilder needs range to be effective.

In the first fight, Freddy Roach in Fury's corner believed that Tyson could win by KO if he followed up after landing shots, pushed Wilder back and stayed on him. Ben Davison vetoed that idea because he was worried that Fury wouldn't have the stamina for it after his long lay-off and massive weight loss.

I think Fury will be more aggressive in the rematch and try to get in close where he can use his size and in-fighting skills to maul Wilder and sap his stamina. And I think he now has the strength and fitness, as well as the ability, to pull it off.

[P4Pdunny]

We all need to forget about this, AJ has two mandos for next year. Fury and Wilder will probably run back a trilogy and Wilder will have to face his mandatory too, so this fight won't happen earliest till 2021. My bet is that Wilder and AJ never get it on. AJ and Fury may do though.

[Ake-Dawg]

You don't get it that being stronger and fitter makes a fighter less likely to get dropped in a fight?

Really?

Fury did look stronger and fitter against Schwartz and Wallin.

Wallin is a good prospect who would probably beat Ortiz and would school Stiverne. Fury was unlucky to get cut so badly early in the fight against him and that definitely affected his performance, but he still won by a mile on the cards.

Like I said before, knocking out 2 old men you have already beaten once, who have done nothing since you beat them the first time except look like shit against journeymen, proves nothing.

Being stronger or fitter doesn't make your chin better. It may give you the stamina to avoid punches for longer, but stamina was not a factor in the first fight for Fury.

You say Fury was fitter and stronger versus Wallin then excuse his success against Fury prior to the cut as a result of how good he is, yet have no evidence of that versus clearly lesser opponents than a Ortiz. Yet you're projecting him to beat Ortiz in what only seems like an attempt to make Fury look better. Meanwhile Wallin sits in storage now with Bob having options on him, ensuring he doesn't fight again until after Wilder Fury rematch happens if it is going to happen.

I don't know how long you've been watching boxing, but knocking out a guy you knocked out before is generally harder the second time unless you make adjustments to ensure you bring something new to the ring that they haven't seen.

Further you seem unwilling to acknowledge that Wilder adjusted his approach in the later rounds and that resulted in the 2 knock downs. He will adjust his pace, his use of feints, and how he throws his jab with Fury in southpaw. The key to Fury is touching him, particularly the body. Make him worry if he's won the round prior. Then he will open up to be countered more often.

[OnlytheTruth]

In the first fight, Freddy Roach in Fury's corner believed that Tyson could win by KO if he followed up after landing shots, pushed Wilder back and stayed on him. Ben Davison vetoed that idea because he was worried that Fury wouldn't have the stamina for it after his long lay-off and massive weight loss.

Every day is a school day.

[JakeTheBoxer]

After Fury beats him, Wilder can fight Whyte for WBC mandatory.

[Ake-Dawg]

Fury has a 40lb+ weight advantage over Wilder and knows how to fight close up, which Wilder can't do. Wilder needs range to be effective.

In the first fight, Freddy Roach in Fury's corner believed that Tyson could win by KO if he followed up after landing shots, pushed Wilder back and stayed on him. Ben Davison vetoed that idea because he was worried that Fury wouldn't have the stamina for it after his long lay-off and massive weight loss.

I think Fury will be more aggressive in the rematch and try to get in close where he can use his size and in-fighting skills to maul Wilder and sap his stamina. And I think he now has the strength and fitness, as well as the ability, to pull it off.

Why didn't he do that to the green Wallin? Might have prevented the cut. It would be interesting to see if Fury the thoroughbred style fighter can become a clydesdale style fighter against a guy that many have stated is a lot stronger than he looks. Further, it kinda puts Fury's chin in harm's way trying to get in and stay in close. The straight right hand isn't the only punch Wilder can stop a fight with.