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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    PBC hypocrisy at its finest

    I was put on ignore mid discussion on Crawford-Spence so I’ll just start this thread.

    According to PBC fan boys, Crawford doesn’t deserve a 50-50 split with Spence because Spence is a draw (LMFAO) and Crawford isn’t.

    Also, it doesn’t matter that Crawford is an undefeated three division champion who’s universally recognized as a top 5 p4p fighter because Spence has two belts and Crawford only has one.

    They then say Crawford didn’t leave Top Rank and ESPN to sign with PBC and Fox/Showtime, so Crawford is the one who’s ducking!

    Hmmm, really?

    So Charlo is ducking Alvarez, GGG and Andrade then, right? He didn’t leave PBC and Showtime/Fox to sign with DAZN. So he must be a big fat ducker then, right? How come none of the PBC fans say that when they say no one wants to fight Charlo?

    That also means Wilder is ducking Joshua. He didn’t leave PBC and Showtime/Fox to sign with DAZN. So he’s ducking, right? But for some reason, PBC fan boys never agree with that point when the Wilder-Joshua fight gets discussed. Instead they question why Wilder has to be disloyal to get a fight with Joshua.

    Also, PBC fans agree with Wilder getting a 50/50 split against Joshua? Why? He’s not as big of a draw as Joshua is. Their reasoning is always his credentials. He’s made this many title defenses and has this many knockouts, is undefeated, is ranked this way, etc.

    Why doesn’t that apply to Crawford? Why isn’t he allowed to get a 50-50 split when he isn’t the draw Spence is? Which btw, the gap in drawing power between Crawford and Spence is absolutely nothing like the gap in drawing power between Wilder and Joshua.

    Also why doesn’t the Joshua to Wilder belt ratio matter but the Spence to Crawford belt ratio does?

    So to recap, no PBC/Showtime/Fox fighter should have to leave PBC/Showtime/Fox to get a fight. But everyone who isn’t with PBC/Showtime/Fox has to leave the promoter and network they’re with to play ball.

    Also, drawing power shouldn’t matter in negotiations if it doesn’t favor the PBC/Showtime/Fox fighter, but if it does favor their guy, it absolutely should matter in negotiations!

    You’re a bunch of PBC fan boy hypocrites. I never want to see someone ever cry that Charlo and Wilder are avoided if they blame Crawford for not getting a fight at welterweight.

    Also, putting people on ignore is for pu$$ie$ who aren’t capable of making good points. ***** off pu$$ie$.
  • mcdonalds
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    #2
    What proof do you have that Crawford is as big of a draw as Spence ?

    I would love to see you show and prove

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      #3
      I don’t know that he’s as big of a draw, I just know that Spence isn’t so much more of a draw that it makes 50-50 unreasonable.

      What the PBC fan boys are using as proof is PPV numbers. Spence has a PPV against an undefeated mexican-american champion. If Crawford has fought Garcia, it would have sold the exact same way because Garcia was the star of the show, not Spence.

      They then use the Spence-Porter fight, which would have sold the same way of it was Crawford-Porter. It only sold (and not very well) because it was a welterweight unification.

      If Spence had fought Postol and Khan on PPV, it wouldn’t have sold ***** either.

      Also, that theory means Wilder should take what he’s offered by Joshua. But no one who says Crawford should take what he’s offered by Spence believes that about Wilder-Joshua. I wonder why?

      Originally posted by mcdonalds
      What proof do you have that Crawford is as big of a draw as Spence ?

      I would love to see you show and prove

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        #4
        It should be around 50/50.

        Who cares about the splits?

        I just wanna see the fight.

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          #5
          Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
          According to PBC fan boys, Crawford doesn’t deserve a 50-50 split with Spence because Spence is a draw (LMFAO) and Crawford isn’t.
          That's not really something you can dispute. The numbers clearly show that Spence is the bigger draw.

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          • mcdonalds
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            #6
            Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
            I don’t know that he’s as big of a draw, I just know that Spence isn’t so much more of a draw that it makes 50-50 unreasonable.

            What the PBC fan boys are using as proof is PPV numbers. Spence has a PPV against an undefeated mexican-american champion. If Crawford has fought Garcia, it would have sold the exact same way because Garcia was the star of the show, not Spence.

            They then use the Spence-Porter fight, which would have sold the same way of it was Crawford-Porter. It only sold (and not very well) because it was a welterweight unification.

            If Spence had fought Postol and Khan on PPV, it wouldn’t have sold ***** either.

            Also, that theory means Wilder should take what he’s offered by Joshua. But no one who says Crawford should take what he’s offered by Spence believes that about Wilder-Joshua. I wonder why?
            Shoulda, coulda, woulda. That basically sums up everything you typed. . Crawford flopped twice on PPV and has no one to fight, those are the FACTS.


            Fact is, Spence is a bigger draw, has more ppv buys, actually has plenty of big fight options, etc.

            Crawford doesn't deserve 50/50

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            • Lopez_Boxing
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              #7
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              It should be around 50/50.

              Who cares about the splits?

              I just wanna see the fight.
              No. You have to care. Youre not a fan if you just want to see fights. You have to care about ig followers

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              • rolshans
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                #8
                Originally posted by mcdonalds
                Shoulda, coulda, woulda. That basically sums up everything you typed. . Crawford flopped twice on PPV and has no one to fight, those are the FACTS.


                Fact is, Spence is a bigger draw, has more ppv buys, actually has plenty of big fight options, etc.

                Crawford doesn't deserve 50/50
                OP was pointing out hypocrisy re: Joshua/Wilder, which is also true. Same people that say Spence should get more than Crawford are the ones who think Wilder deserves 50%. Which is insane.

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                • ShaneMosleySr
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                  #9
                  The numbers show that Mikey Garcia is a bigger draw than Crawford and that Crawford hasn’t fought in a fight that’s as big as a welterweight unification fight.

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                  That's not really something you can dispute. The numbers clearly show that Spence is the bigger draw.

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                  • Ray*
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                    #10
                    Spence is the bigger draw just like Joshua is the bigger draw. The ratio is definitely closer between spence and Crawford than Joshua and Wilder. At the end of the day those fights are not going to happen, the common denominator is called? PBC....

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