What's with Winky's attitude

[DiegoFuego]

i dont think anyone was dominated and i dont think anyone was robbed. if it was a decision for taylor, or winky, or if it was a legit draw, i would not argue. it was a close fight.

personally, i had the fight 115-113 for taylor. but there were a lot of rounds that i had mixed feelings about who won.

I scored it for Taylor after splitting two rounds that I wasn't sure about. I do remember strongly disagreeing with Lederman about an early round he gave to Wright for the reason I just explained above.

[RAESAAD]

How can you use a word like "dominate" when describing a fight like Taylor vs. Wright? Your bias has ruined your credibility in this post.

I said for the most part......which I believe to be true.He pressed the action and was more effective throughout the fight........I stand by what I said about Lacy and it is true......Just because Calzaghe a guy who is 41-0 and been around many moons can beat him does not mean that many others can.......And for the record you have no bearing on whether a post I make is credible or not...You are one of the most biased people on this entire site.....If someone does not agree with you...You whine and call them an idiot and all kinds of other **** so don't try that bull**** with me.....

[TheEvilSaint]

Well, you don't get points for blocking punches.

yes you do. its called "defense", and defense is one of the four criteria you need to win a round/fight.

if taylor throws 6 punches, and all 6 are blocked by winky, thats not effective aggressiveness on taylor's part. thats good defense on winky's part.

P.S. im not in the mood to flame. im saying this in a strictly professional state of mind. so dont start.

[SecondRoundKO]

Well, you don't get points for blocking punches. You get points for landing more clean punches than your opponent. If one guy chases the other the entire round but doesn't land a punch while the other guy has his hands down the entire time, dodging punches, you score it to the guy pressing the action even if neither lands a punch. You don't say, "well, Mayweather dodges 50 punches and landed zero while the other guy missed 50 punches, so we score it to Mayweather". That doesn't happen and Wright knows it.

To make a better point about Wright needing to clearly outland his bigger, stronger opponents. If Mike Tyson lands 15 punches against say a Michael Spinks, but Spinks lands 23 punches, do you really think anybody is going to score the round to Spinks? Hell no. You award close rounds to the bigger puncher. That is why Spinks would have had to land at least 12 more punches than Tyson each round to win a decision.

But the thing about the Taylor fight is that Wright was the one pushing the action. He was walking forward and he had Taylor moving backwards and he was landing by far the cleaner punches. They might have even been equally as hard seeing as how Wright landed flush with the right hand all night while Taylor rarely landed a really clean puunch. And I'm pretty sure that Wright landed 60 more punches then Taylor. I had the fight 7 rounds to 5 everytime I watched it (or 6 rounds to 5 with 1 even) but no way did Taylor win that fight.

[The Troll]

I was thinking about Wright the other day and I think he's overrated. If he runs into a guy who hits hard, goes to the body well, has a high workrate he'd have problems.

[DiegoFuego]

Just to clear something up, if one guy is fighting, and the other guy is just blocking punches, and that's it, then the guy that is attempting to fight wins the round. At least in America that's the way it is. I'm shocked that some of you think you get points if you block punches without throwing any while the other guy just throws them.

[ROSEWOOD]

This guy is either insanely delusional or just full of B.S. After every round of every close fight he's in, the guy raises his hands as if to say, "I won that round". Here I'm watching him fight Vargas and after he clearly loses the 7th round, Winky throws his hands up and nods like he took it. Is he just playing to the judges or does he seriously think he wins every round? I'm thinking the latter because he acted like he dominated the fight vs. Taylor. Does he not realize that close rounds go to the guy with POP? If you land virtually equal numbers of punches, the guy who hits harder wins the round. And Wright hits harder than well...nobody. For Wright to win a round vs. Taylor or Vargas, he has to clearly outland them and he seldom did that against either one of those guys. The dude is just delusional acting like he clearly won either of those fights. No way, Winky.

He does that every fight..he either winks his eye or raises his hands...nothing wrong with being confident in what you have just done..i actually like that crap...and not to mention, these **** head judges of today actually take that in to consideration...you know they judge everything but the fight...

[amagnin]

yes you do. its called "defense", and defense is one of the four criteria you need to win a round/fight.

if taylor throws 6 punches, and all 6 are blocked by winky, thats not effective aggressiveness on taylor's part. thats good defense on winky's part.

P.S. im not in the mood to flame. im saying this in a strictly professional state of mind. so dont start.

That is what I was saying earlier. Ring Generalship and Defense are supposedly two of the judging criteria. It just seems judges credit hard, effective punching much more. I guess this is the reality of the system and Winky should just adjust rather than try to change the system.

[RAESAAD]

Just to clear something up, if one guy is fighting, and the other guy is just blocking punches, and that's it, then the guy that is attempting to fight wins the round. At least in America that's the way it is. I'm shocked that some of you think you get points if you block punches without throwing any while the other guy just throws them.

UMMM Winky was throwing more ,landing more and blocking more whats your point?

[TheEvilSaint]

Just to clear something up, if one guy is fighting, and the other guy is just blocking punches, and that's it, then the guy that is attempting to fight wins the round. At least in America that's the way it is. I'm shocked that some of you think you get points if you block punches without throwing any while the other guy just throws them.

well winky wasnt just blocking, he was punching, too. so blocking without throwing was not what winky did.