What's with Winky's attitude

**RAESAAD** · 08-01-2006, 12:24 PM

He did for the most part dominate Taylor......He took it to his ass throughout....something nobody expected he would do either.I just think he is letting everyone know that he feels he either won the round or just to let people know he is/was unfazed by the action even if it appears he lost the round......but thats just my opinion.I think he clearly did far more to beat taylor than Taylor did to beat Hopkins yet Winky gets the draw instead of the W and taylor got the W instead of the draw which would have been the right call in Taylor/B-Hop I....Oh well they can only carry Taylor so far and someday he is going to have to really beat a top guy in dominate fashion or just be another dud.

**DiegoFuego** · 08-01-2006, 12:25 PM

How can you use a word like "dominate" when describing a fight like Taylor vs. Wright? Your bias has ruined your credibility in this post.

**Kball15** · 08-01-2006, 12:26 PM

i had him winning by 4 rounds when he fought vargas, so i thought he clearly won that fight. But the Taylor fight i had a draw. I think he raises his hands like that because if its a really close round the judges look at the fighters walking back to their corners.

IF one looks like he thinks he dominated the round and one looks nearly dead, the judges might lean toward giving the ****y fighter the round. It doesnt happen often, but if raising ur hands at the end of every round can win u 1 round out of every 100, why not do it??

**DiegoFuego** · 08-01-2006, 12:26 PM

Sorry to turn it into a Taylor vs. Wright discussion, but only Wright fans are delusional enough to suggest he dominated the fight as evidenced by homeboy Rasaeed, who also thinks Lacy (another hometown boy of his) can beat and I quote, "95%" of the guys at SMW and LHW.

**DiegoFuego** · 08-01-2006, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by kfootball15

i had him winning by 4 rounds when he fought vargas, so i thought he clearly won that fight. But the Taylor fight i had a draw. I think he raises his hands like that because if its a really close round they look at the fighters walking back to their corners.

IF one looks like he thinks he dominated and one looks nearly dead, the judges might lean toward giving the ****y fighter the round. It doesnt happen often, but if raising ur hands at the end of every round can win u 1 round out of ever 100, why not do it??

Good point.

**amagnin** · 08-01-2006, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by DiegoFuego

This guy is either insanely delusional or just full of B.S. After every round of every close fight he's in, the guy raises his hands as if to say, "I won that round". Here I'm watching him fight Vargas and after he clearly loses the 7th round, Winky throws his hands up and nods like he took it. Is he just playing to the judges or does he seriously think he wins every round? I'm thinking the latter because he acted like he dominated the fight vs. Taylor. Does he not realize that close rounds go to the guy with POP? If you land virtually equal numbers of punches, the guy who hits harder wins the round. And Wright hits harder than well...nobody. For Wright to win a round vs. Taylor or Vargas, he has to clearly outland them and he seldom did that against either one of those guys. The dude is just delusional acting like he clearly won either of those fights. No way, Winky.

Both were close fights. I scored the Taylor fight a draw, and I actually did have Winky beating Cargas. On your point, totally agree the guy is delusional and totally ego-maniacal. Every time he got hit in the Taylor fight he would shake his head as if to say you didn't hit me or that didn't hurt me. I attribute part of his attitude to the fact that he has continually gotten the shaft in his career in terms of $ and making big fights. Now that he has "arrived", he feels that he should be getting paid back for all of the BS he endured early in his career. I think that Winky is a really good fighter, but I agree with what you said. If a round is close, it goest to the guy with more pop. Winky lands more punches a lot of rounds but most of the punches are soft jabs. I don't think its unfair to credit bigger punches more as they are harder to land. Maybe Winky's defense and ring generalship aren't taken into account enough as that is supposedly part of the scoring as well.

**jack_the_rippuh** · 08-01-2006, 12:28 PM

I guess he thinks that since Taylor didn't walk over him like so many expected and Taylor's power didn't harm him as much as many people expected, that in itself is a victory.

**TheEvilSaint** · 08-01-2006, 12:30 PM

i dont think anyone was dominated and i dont think anyone was robbed. if it was a decision for taylor, or winky, or if it was a legit draw, i would not argue. it was a close fight.

personally, i had the fight 115-113 for taylor. but there were a lot of rounds that i had mixed feelings about who won.

**DiegoFuego** · 08-01-2006, 12:31 PM

Well, you don't get points for blocking punches. You get points for landing more clean punches than your opponent. If one guy chases the other the entire round but doesn't land a punch while the other guy has his hands down the entire time, dodging punches, you score it to the guy pressing the action even if neither lands a punch. You don't say, "well, Mayweather dodges 50 punches and landed zero while the other guy missed 50 punches, so we score it to Mayweather". That doesn't happen and Wright knows it.

To make a better point about Wright needing to clearly outland his bigger, stronger opponents. If Mike Tyson lands 15 punches against say a Michael Spinks, but Spinks lands 23 punches, do you really think anybody is going to score the round to Spinks? Hell no. You award close rounds to the bigger puncher. That is why Spinks would have had to land at least 12 more punches than Tyson each round to win a decision.

What's with Winky's attitude