Why do British fans excuse Whyte’s last fight but rag on Ortiz for Hammer?

[ShaneMosleySr]

Luis Ortiz won every round on one scorecard and 9 of 10 rounds on the other two score cards.

Hammer was three months removed from scoring an upset over an undefeated boxer.

This performance was deemed unacceptable by British boxing fans.

Dillian Whyte beat Wach 97-93 twice and 98-92. Wach just beat two fighters with a 2-5 record and a 6-30 record after losing three straight.

This performance was deemed acceptable by British boxing fans.

Wach did beat Hammer 9 years ago but Hammer is currently rated above Wach by boxrec.

British boxing fans, please explain why Ortiz was bad against Hammer while Whyte did just fine against Wach.

TIA.

[Lopez_Boxing]

Let them have their fun. They are just happy to have a few contenders

[DaNeutral.]

Are you just making things up just to try start a bitter debate with some British fans? Who was really impressed with Whyte? He didnt lose considering his conditioning and after having a bollocks 6 months or so. And who ever said Ortiz beating Hammer was bad? You may want to question just how highly Ortiz should be credited for the win and his performance but nobody as said it was bad.

But lets be real, Hammer was B level competition, Wach is too, but Americans seem to demand that Ortiz is held as some ATG or something, hes a good fighter there is no denying it, but neither his record, resume or achievements suggest hes anything other than just another good fighter. Problem with Hammer and Dave Allan as opposition is this is Ortiz normal level of competition.

[Ray*]

Who are the british fans making threads and excusing Whyte’s performance here?

[solid_jab1987]

Luis Ortiz won every round on one scorecard and 9 of 10 rounds on the other two score cards.

Hammer was three months removed from scoring an upset over an undefeated boxer.

This performance was deemed unacceptable by British boxing fans.

Dillian Whyte beat Wach 97-93 twice and 98-92. Wach just beat two fighters with a 2-5 record and a 6-30 record after losing three straight.

This performance was deemed acceptable by British boxing fans.

Wach did beat Hammer 9 years ago but Hammer is currently rated above Wach by boxrec.

British boxing fans, please explain why Ortiz was bad against Hammer while Whyte did just fine against Wach.

TIA.

Who said it's acceptable? Even Whyte himself said he should've performed better. He did have the investigation hanging over his head which has got to affect him mentally but I'm sure he'll be back to his best soon. Boxing fans are too quick to criticise if ever anyone has an off night... even top 5 Heavyweights can't be perfect constantly...
How dare they have a bad night!!

[Sparked_26]

I’ve never been down on Ortiz personally but for some I suppose it’s...

Credit in the bank for some

For British fans unfortunately we’ve Ortiz’s worst fights when he was briefly campaigning here. The one against Scott and the one against Allen. He was so lacklustre in both. Properly going through the motions to the frustration of proper British boxing fans and to the all important casual who saw a big, scary looking dude from the Cuban school who should be able to take out Allen in style.

You also have to appreciate that we have to stay up to the small hours to watch him fight often times . I’ve not even seen that Hammer fight but I suppose of the hardcore probably wanted some sort of statement.

My appreciation of Ortiz only from his 2 fights with Wilder.

Whyte has had good scraps with Parker, AJ, Chisora twice and Rivas.

He’s a good fighter but I don’t think any British fans think Whyte is a monster. A boogeyman. He’s more viewed a have-a-go hero type. Which we typically like as a sporting nation.

Hence the frustration with Wilder. It’s not that the boxing fans on here think will beat him but they would like to see him try.

[Guest]

Who are the british fans making threads and excusing Whyte’s performance here?

I agree with this. Whyte was vilified in the round by round thread by literally everybody because he looked so bad and slow.

[Citizen Koba]

Luis Ortiz won every round on one scorecard and 9 of 10 rounds on the other two score cards.

Hammer was three months removed from scoring an upset over an undefeated boxer.

This performance was deemed unacceptable by British boxing fans.

Dillian Whyte beat Wach 97-93 twice and 98-92. Wach just beat two fighters with a 2-5 record and a 6-30 record after losing three straight.

This performance was deemed acceptable by British boxing fans.

Wach did beat Hammer 9 years ago but Hammer is currently rated above Wach by boxrec.

British boxing fans, please explain why Ortiz was bad against Hammer while Whyte did just fine against Wach.

TIA.

Honestly not a lot in it, Wach was probably better than Hammer at his peak, but that was years ago and besides was barely a molehill anyway. Ortiz dealt with Hammer a bit more comprehensively than Dillian did with Wach, but honestly neither of 'em put in performances that would have had the divisional leaders quaking in their boots.

Can I ask why you're making sweeping generalisations about the opinions of fans from an entire country? So far as I recall I ain't actually seen anyone say that Dillians performance was anything other than sub-par, so maybe it'd be more helpful if you'd address such posts to the specific posters who made the 'excuses' you're refering to.

[Clegg]

You claimed to really be Shane before, but are you actually really Rid**** Bowe? You post kinda like he talks

[Articulateboxin]

I haven't seen any posts commending Whyte or making any reference to it either. I think it's largely understood what that fight was and I guess a lot of people attributed most of his lack luster performance to the 6 months he's had,not training as he should have coupled with some short notice. If there had been a post on it prior to this, I would have agreed with it.

I actually think Whyte is a little overrated anyway, Chisora beat him in the first fight and was beating him quite convincingly in the second fight. He did impress me with his boxing performances against Parker and Rivas and he's definitely improving. However his fight on Saturday didn't surprise me at all.