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  • Curtis Harper
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    #71
    Fat Hands caught AJ slippin. If they fought 20 more times, AJ wins them all.
    Ortiz handles Fat Hands too

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    • Articulateboxin
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      #72
      Originally posted by HeadShots
      fast hands mean nothing when you move like a turtle.

      Well that's not really true, it means everything against an opponent that doesn't box and move, or is willing to meet you on the inside.

      I would love to see Ortiz vs Ruiz, 2 counter punchers with decent power! I'd favour Ruiz with volume, perhaps even by late stoppage.

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      • Ray*
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        #73
        Originally posted by BlakBread904
        Ha ha. The same dude you compared to Seth Mitchell. Keep up.
        Jennings is BY? Sorry mayne... Didn't know that.

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        • LetOutTheCage
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          #74
          Honestly I think Ortiz is better, hypothetically speaking if they were to fight, even at his age I would expect Ortiz to win.

          I still maintain that the first Joshua fight had a huge element of luck and a lot of naivety from Joshua's part. Joshua beats him every time fighting like he did in the second fight. And I think the other top heavyweights all beat Ruiz as well.

          Fast hands does not excuse him being much smaller, much heavier and having terrible footwork.

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          • HeadShots
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            #75
            Originally posted by Articulateboxin
            Well that's not really true, it means everything against an opponent that doesn't box and move, or is willing to meet you on the inside.

            I would love to see Ortiz vs Ruiz, 2 counter punchers with decent power! I'd favour Ruiz with volume, perhaps even by late stoppage.
            Fast hands mean less than fast feet.

            Example, Duran vs Leonard 2. Once leonard chose to disengage and fight on the outside. it's over. same thing in Joshua Ruiz

            Ortiz not only have faster feet. he has longer strides, overall better footwork AND longer reach.

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            • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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              #76
              Originally posted by HeadShots
              Wilder's 2 KO wins over Ortiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua going 1-1 against a 5'10 fat turd with the footspeed of a turtle

              Ortiz would box his head off havana style.
              Ortiz would outbox Ruiz pretty comfortably.

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              • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                #77
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                Ortiz has done nothing. Most overrated fighter in the sport.
                Maybe if you attended fights live you’d understand...

                Watching Ortiz live would give you a better perspective.

                Are you even a real fan?

                How many fights have you attended this year?

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #78
                  Ortiz is the most over hyped HW boxer in recent years.
                  No valuable win of note except the guy the a slow JJ dismantled.

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                  • HeadShots
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                    Ortiz is the most over hyped HW boxer in recent years.
                    No valuable win of note except the guy the a slow JJ dismantled.

                    styles make fights. Ruiz is a classic cuban counter-puncher with elite footwork. Ruiz would get turnt and outboxed.

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                    • KillaMane26
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                      #80
                      I cant see Ruiz outboxing Ortiz or getting on the inside which im 75% sure would get him knocked tf out

                      Sorry AJ fans

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