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The people who said joshua was outboxing ruiz before the knockdown: Are you blind?
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Originally posted by Weebler I View PostScoring rounds is a subjective business. You have your opinion, but similarly I think you need to allow others to have theirs.
Joshua objecively was throwing almost nothing but jabs
ruiz objectively staggered joshua
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Originally posted by ikigai View PostYou mean hearn's judges? One of which had joshua winning the fight when it was stopped.. lmfao
I rewatched the first 2 rounds just to reply to someone and watching it closely, it seems pretty clear that ruiz was outlanding joshua, who was just jabbing. Ruiz even hurt him a couple times.
There was a left hook counter that ruiz landed near 40 seconds left in the second round that staggered joshua too, on top of the overhand right that clearly staggered him at 2:45 left in the second round.
Strange how that works
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Originally posted by Weebler I View Postlol you're not objective on this, goh.
I loosely broke down the rounds after a rewatch, so tell me in which parts of the rounds that joshua outlanded ruiz.
And which punches he landed that would win him the round.
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Originally posted by ikigai View PostLanded punches are not subjective. A fist landing on the face and body is a physical, empirical occurrence.
I loosely broke down the rounds after a rewatch, so tell me in which parts of the rounds that joshua outlanded ruiz.
And which punches he landed that would win him the round.
I think you just need to accept that many others saw the first two rounds differently to you (though I shan't be holding my breath).
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Originally posted by ikigai View PostRedd Foxx for one has been talklng a lot of shlt today. I don't remember everything he said, but one thing I do remember is the ****ing ridiculous claim he made that ruiz was the same fighter he was in the second fight as the first. That ruiz not showing up to train, and coming in at 283 made no difference.
Really? In the first fight ruiz won every single round, knocked down joshua 4 times and stopped him within 7.
He didn't train, weighed in at 283, looked like absolute shlt, and he was the same fighter in the second fight lol?
I wouldn't point it out if you weren't so set on being an obnoxious ass, going out of your way to confront people about the stupid stuff you say.Last edited by Redd Foxx; 12-09-2019, 05:29 AM.
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Not for one second do I trust compubox, but just for some comparison on this objective discussion, they had Joshua outlanding 8 to 3 in the first round. And at 28% to 11%.
Yeah I know, compubox. But are they any less reliable than the op?
For me... well I gave Joshua 1, 2 and 5. Same as most of the judges. I'd never say he was in control - but I think he was winning those rounds. Not that it matters - he got beaten up and (technically) knocked out.
I think there is a tendency to overscore the underdog just for doing more than expected, or underscore a favourite for not doing what they should.
Mind you, I can appreciate that others might score it differently.
Whether it's me or the op that's wrong on the rounds is up for debate. The difference is that I can see that, while the op can't.
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Originally posted by Toffee View PostNot for one second do I trust compubox, but just for some comparison on this objective discussion, they had Joshua outlanding 8 to 3 in the first round. And at 28% to 11%.
Yeah I know, compubox. But are they any less reliable than the op?
For me... well I gave Joshua 1, 2 and 5. Same as most of the judges. I'd never say he was in control - but I think he was winning those rounds. Not that it matters - he got beaten up and (technically) knocked out.
I think there is a tendency to overscore the underdog just for doing more than expected, or underscore a favourite for not doing what they should.
Mind you, I can appreciate that others might score it differently.
Whether it's me or the op that's wrong on the rounds is up for debate. The difference is that I can see that, while the op can't.
It’s always hilarious whenever someone with a very strong opinion refuses to accept other points of view.
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