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  • #31
    1. Wilder
    2. Fury
    3. Joshua.

    All others don't matter.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
      How can anyone have Wilder over Fury when everyone saw Fury beat him

      Are we just in the age of ignoring robberies now?

      Also Fury has better wins than AJ. He beat a younger and more dominant Wlad.

      AJ’s best win is a Fury leftover that hadn’t fought in nearly 2 years and was in his 40s..
      That's true.......

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      • #33
        Originally posted by EL_GRINGO View Post
        Fury and Wilder will determine a genuine number 1 in their rematch, Joshua at this point i have third.
        Agreed, but this is ranking them as of now

        The winner of Fury/Wilder will have a solid claim to being no.1

        Winner of Fury/Wilder vs Joshua will establish a universal lineage for the HW championship which is currently debatable

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        • #34
          How can wilder be no1 by being outbo xedd by 40 year old?
          Fury is no1.

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          • #35
            The only HW list that matters is here. https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=835048

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            • #36
              Originally posted by techliam View Post
              ...I struggle to place Wilder above the other two. How can you justify that, considering divisional rankings are based on who you have beaten?
              Yes, my rankings are:

              1. Wilder
              2. Fury
              3. Joshua

              I rank 'em this way because this is how I see future fights playing out. I think Wilder would eventually land a big right hand on Joshua, who wouldn't survive vertically.

              And yep, I know that Fury and Joshua both defeated Klitschko. But Klit was an old man nearing the end.

              As for Fury, I look forward to the fight. I feel he's on his way out, while Wilder is more likely to improve his boxing skills just enough to make a difference.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
                How can anyone have Wilder over Fury when everyone saw Fury beat him

                Are we just in the age of ignoring robberies now?

                Also Fury has better wins than AJ. He beat a younger and more dominant Wlad.

                AJ’s best win is a Fury leftover that hadn’t fought in nearly 2 years and was in his 40s..
                It’s true that Fury beat Wilder, but I don’t think the argument ends there. Tyson didn’t look impressive at all in his last outing, and he almost got KOed by Deontay. Wilder has KOed practically everyone he’s faced. In my view, there’s an argument for both these guys, and either could be number one.

                Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
                How can you have Ortiz above AJ though?

                Ortiz best win is Jennings years ago

                AJ has beaten a handful of fighters as good or better than Jennings, even though he has lost to Ruiz.
                AJ over Ortiz all day, especially after he avenged his only professional loss. I don’t think there’s any real argument here.

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                • #38
                  #1 Fury (Toss up with Wilder, but I have to give Tyson the edge, as he should’ve been awarded the win in their one encounter.)

                  #2 Wilder

                  #3 Joshua

                  #4 Ruiz

                  #5 Ortiz (Maybe.)

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Joe Beamish View Post
                    Yes, my rankings are:

                    1. Wilder
                    2. Fury
                    3. Joshua

                    I rank 'em this way because this is how I see future fights playing out. I think Wilder would eventually land a big right hand on Joshua, who wouldn't survive vertically.

                    And yep, I know that Fury and Joshua both defeated Klitschko. But Klit was an old man nearing the end.

                    As for Fury, I look forward to the fight. I feel he's on his way out, while Wilder is more likely to improve his boxing skills just enough to make a difference.
                    Ah ok, that’s fair enough

                    How would you rank them based on current resume? It’s a different criteria and I’m interested to see how this might change

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                    • #40
                      There needs to be only one champion. One face. One name.

                      Period.

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