Some Thoughts on the Fight and Going Forward....

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  • sicko
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    #21
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    The Most OVERRATED F#CKING ERA of Heavyweights I've ever seen and I'm talking about ALL OF THEM! Thanks to Social Media and Forums like this, fans are able to express their Man Crush Groupie Love for their favorite fighters

    Now that doesn't mean they're not good but they all have Fans who just hype these Men way too much as if these are All Time Great Fighters when neither are even close to establishing themselves as such

    They ALL need to fight each other and if they don't then they eliminate themselves from ever being in that All Time Great Conversation. I don't care who fans think is ducking, if you're just pointing fingers and you're not pushing either to fight each other then you're the problem. AJ fans should push for him to fight Wilder, Wilder Fans should push for him to fight AJ...however it doesn't end after that. By the time they fight you will have Usyk, Hrgrovic, Daniel Dubois, Tony Yoka and all these younger guys licking their chops wanting a piece of that action because I'm sure they all see the flaws in AJ and Wilder that everybody else sees and will feel like they can exploit it

    AJ was very passive about Wilder after this fight. However, I do think DAZN and different Countries will throw around just astronomical site fee so I do think something will get worked out and we will get that fight IF Wilder beats Fury and that is a BIG IF. Saudi's paying what they paid for Ruiz vs AJ II kinda somewhat sets the going rate. Wilder vs AJ obviously is worth way more than AJ vs Andy so we shall see what type of offers come in
    Last edited by sicko; 12-07-2019, 11:51 PM.

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #22
      Joshua fought the right fight and it certainly defused Ruiz. I don't think it was tricky or complicated he just needed to do simple things well and limit Ruiz and his chance of winning were very high. Now he did do excellent and dominated the fight so can't hate on that.

      I just don't think much can be read into it, he might beat Wilder boxing him but I still thin he tactically speaking is very straight forward and his boxing is not complicated to figure out (unlike Fury). So there is a lot of danger in that fight, sure he can win but that is a dangerous fight. I don't think he stands a chance boxing Fury, if he tries to box Fury he will look very bad. Maybe if he fights aggressively but even then I think Fury has the answer for him.

      I do like Joshua slimmed down though, I don't think he had to work overly hard to really test his stamina but he did seem better off as a boxer with less bulk which makes sense. He wasn't in with anyone that was going to really put that to the test with an even more obese Ruiz but it looked better. How much though to see because what it was compared to in the ring.

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      • springfiels
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        #23
        Originally posted by MASTER OF you
        you are overrating wilder's power. stiverne went the full 12 rounds with wilder. fury beat wilder and in the process took wilder's best shots and recovered. wilder is severely limited and can win only one way
        Joshua has been down by Wlad and Ruiz and rocked bad by Dillian... I'm certain Wilder landing clean would have him **** in trouble.

        I'm no Wilder fan, but you have to respect his power and poise plus he has also shown a chin.

        Listen imo, those 3 can provide an amazing set of fights if they'll just start fighting each other. All have different world class skill sets, look the part and have charisma. Its all set.

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        • !! Shawn
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          #24
          A lighters Joshua looks a lot scarier than the muscle bound Joshua. Id wager he can probably hit harder at this weight also. He looked much quicker, his stamina was better. If he had the confidence to really sit down on his shots and put them together he probably could have stopped andy.

          With all of that said, can we acknowledge how clearly roided out of his mind Joshua was in the first fight, and how much more natural he looked doing a camp off the juice. Its comical.

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