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  • KTFOKING
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    Some Thoughts on the Fight and Going Forward....

    1. I'm sorry, but if you admit that you were not in terrible shape and trained yourself or did things your way, you do NOT deserve an immediate third fight. Cong**** on getting 16M from these two fights and getting another guaranteed big purse down the road, but Ruiz should NOT be getting a big fight after that performance....At least not next. I saw some documentary series or something on YouTube yesterday where during the Wilder/Ortiz fight, he was killing some pizza and some Mexican food just two weeks before this fight. He got what he deserved in the rematch.

    2. Joshua looked so much more fluid without the extra mass. The style may not have been exciting, but it's EXACTLY what he needed to do. He showed he can fight going backwards and had a perfect game plan. It's great to know you can bring out this style when need be.

    3. If Joshua fights Wilder, I'm not sure if this is the best style to fight him with. The reason is because this style will allow Wilder to stay in the fight and he just needs one somewhat clean shot to end the fight. Maybe against Wilder, Joshua would be better off trying to get him out of there early when Wilder starts out a bit slow.

    4. If Fury beats Wilder in February and their third fight is not next, this is going to be an INSANE fight in the UK. Won't be the most exciting of fights, but one where both fighters try to stay on the outside and get their shots off. Another fight where Joshua may be better suited to try to be a little more aggressive and get his shots off and hurt Fury.

    5. For Joshua to have THIS type of performance THIS type of transformation only six months after the first fight speaks volumes of his character and heart. A lot of fans got mad at how he responded post-fight but he stayed humble and didn't make excuses and just went back in the gym and got better. It is clear he needed to lost some mass as that impacted his stamina and he did just that and used a style he had never used in his career prior to this fight. Much respect to Femi!

    6. Who does Joshua fight next? Likely will be Pulev as Hearn controls Usyk and even though he can call for a mandatory shot, I don't think that happens. Hearn will have Usyk fight someone like Chisora next while Joshua fights Pulev and then looks to fight either the winner of Wilder/Fury or Usyk.
    Last edited by KTFOKING; 12-07-2019, 06:25 PM.
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    solid points.
    AJ is a thinking fighter, and has a great team behind him, so he won't come out with the same gameplan against wilder.

    AJ has a mandatory against Usyk though. that's a much tougher fight than ruiz. we''ll see usyk vs chisora first and that's intriguing

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      Originally posted by that g
      solid points.
      AJ is a thinking fighter, and has a great team behind him, so he won't come out with the same gameplan against wilder.

      AJ has a mandatory against Usyk though. that's a much tougher fight than ruiz. we''ll see usyk vs chisora first and that's intriguing
      But that's why I said Usyk being with Hearn, they won't call for it next. Joshua also has a mandatory against Pulev which has to be fought before the end of May I believe.

      Yeah, will be interesting to see which game plan he uses against Wilder if that fight happens. Will have to mix it up but just dangerous leaving Wilder in the fight for 12 rounds. But that's still a great match up regardless what anyone says.

      Again, much props to Joshua to regain his belts six months after his most devastating moment of his career. That shows his champion mettle.

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        Originally posted by KTFOKING
        But that's why I said Usyk being with Hearn, they won't call for it next. Joshua also has a mandatory against Pulev which has to be fought before the end of May I believe.

        Yeah, will be interesting to see which game plan he uses against Wilder if that fight happens. Will have to mix it up but just dangerous leaving Wilder in the fight for 12 rounds. But that's still a great match up regardless what anyone says.

        Again, much props to Joshua to regain his belts six months after his most devastating moment of his career. That shows his champion mettle.
        they've already called the mando tho. within the last hour.

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          Originally posted by that g
          they've already called the mando tho. within the last hour.
          Sure, and IBF called for Joshua/Ruiz winner to face Pulev before the end of May. Joshua can fight Pulev next and then Usyk after that. Usyk can fight Chisora while Joshua fights Pulev.

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            Next year is Pulev and Usyk, I have no doubt about that. I also have no issues with it.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mammoth
              Next year is Pulev and Usyk, I have no doubt about that. I also have no issues with it.
              No one should.

              Fury vs Wilder may fight part three right after the rematch.

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              • springfiels
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                Yeah AJ Vs Pulev homecoming fight at Tottenham ground in May time, between football season and Euro 2020 sounds a good shout...

                Good points above.

                This makes me think AJ Vs Fury would be a lot more competitive than people thought. AJ could hang with Fury in a boxing match, and Fury always gets tagged himself and AJ has the power to hurt him.

                Wilder is just something different, and a special case for anyone. You really do have to be perfect, and AJ always gets tagged too. Wilders power is something else.

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                  Originally posted by springfiels
                  Yeah AJ Vs Pulev homecoming fight at Tottenham ground in May time, between football season and Euro 2020 sounds a good shout...

                  Good points above.

                  This makes me think AJ Vs Fury would be a lot more competitive than people thought. AJ could hang with Fury in a boxing match, and Fury always gets tagged himself and AJ has the power to hurt him.

                  Wilder is just something different, and a special case for anyone. You really do have to be perfect, and AJ always gets tagged too. Wilders power is something else.
                  But Joshua having this style in his back pocket to go to if he needs it is so valuable. Now he can truly switch it up fight by fight depending on the opponent. Wilder can really only fight one way, but if you don't go to take him out, you are giving him a lot of time to just land one of his big shots. Joshua finally got the right build he needed by losing that extra mass. He should come in like this every single fight the rest of his career.

                  Fury fight to me was always competitive. Fury isn't going to just knock Joshua out and Joshua has enough boxing ability to win rounds off of him. Enough to beat him? I don't know, only one way to tell.

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                  • DeJulez23
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                    AJ has a shot against Fury and Wilder.
                    Fury was bleeding all over in the Otto fight.
                    Wilders lost what 15 of the last 20 rounds hes fought, until the right hand ended the fight/saved him with a draw.
                    All these guys have shown they can be beat on any given night.

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