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  • Curtis Harper
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    #11
    Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
    You shouldn’t pay attention to the trolls. Especially the ones that are not from America. They know nothing about what goes on here. So you can’t really blame them when they make clown statements
    Vegas odds are worldwide
    Vegas is the main office of boxing.

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    • Ray*
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      #12
      Originally posted by Curtis Harper
      It's not as if Andy went on a belt collecting spree. He got lucky and beat the man holding 3. It was a 1 fight thing. Andy has no legacy to speak of.

      The USA MEX connection didn't acknowledge Andy's existence until after the win. No one gave him a chance.

      I could see Vegas giving Wilder 4-1 odds

      Totally agree with this, no way would Ruiz be made the A-side over Wilder. Even his promotional outfit PBC would want Wilder to win.

      The only way I see Ruiz getting the A-side treatment is if a lot more Mexicans jump on his bandwagon, maybe PBC would see him at that point as a major ticket seller than Wilder, who is currently costing them money.

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        #13
        Wilder is getting beaten by Fury in Feb so he'll be tied up in a rematch anyway.

        Ruiz is a fat joke. He'll probably lose to some mediocre HW before he even gets to the big dogs.
        Last edited by removed; 12-05-2019, 06:56 AM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by DaNeutral.
          You cant just pick and choose who you want to call the A side. That comes with factual numbers. How many belts you got, how big your fights are. I think Andy Ruiz himself will very much see himself as the A side and rightfully so. Hes earning more than Wilder right now, Hes got more belts than Wilder right now and including the rematch his last 2 fights would of DWARFED Wilders last 2 fights. Dont forget the "Mexican American market". Hell even Wilder talked about how big a market that his himself.

          All the stats suggest that Andy Ruiz is the A side over Deontay Wilder and thats based on the EXACT SAME criteria that PBC fans been using to say why Errol Spence should be seen as an A side over Terrence Crawford.
          Originally posted by Curtis Harper
          It's not as if Andy went on a belt collecting spree. He got lucky and beat the man holding 3. It was a 1 fight thing. Andy has no legacy to speak of.

          The USA MEX connection didn't acknowledge Andy's existence until after the win. No one gave him a chance.

          I could see Vegas giving Wilder 4-1 odds
          ... in case Andy wins again on Saturday... and in case Andy actually fights Wilder in a "foreseeable future"... ...

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            #15
            andy knows when he faces wilder its nap time

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              #16
              Originally posted by Curtis Harper
              Vegas odds are worldwide
              Vegas is the main office of boxing.

              Why when i say Andy Ruiz is the A side you tell me betting odds? I have no doubt what so ever Wilder will be the Bookies favourite but whats that got to do with anything when im talking about Ruiz getting the better % of the split and gets to dictate where and when because he is the A side.

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                #17
                Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                You cant just pick and choose who you want to call the A side. That comes with factual numbers. How many belts you got, how big your fights are. I think Andy Ruiz himself will very much see himself as the A side and rightfully so. Hes earning more than Wilder right now, Hes got more belts than Wilder right now and including the rematch his last 2 fights would of DWARFED Wilders last 2 fights. Dont forget the "Mexican American market". Hell even Wilder talked about how big a market that his himself.

                All the stats suggest that Andy Ruiz is the A side over Deontay Wilder and thats based on the EXACT SAME criteria that PBC fans been using to say why Errol Spence should be seen as an A side over Terrence Crawford.

                I see you don't know how things work, so let me explain it to you.


                Errol would be the A side over bud because they both have 2 ppv fights under their belts and Errol outsold Crawford on both.

                Ruiz has never fought on ppv therefore he won't be the A side against Wilder.


                Wilder will be 3 or 4 ppv's in by the time he fights Ruiz. Therefore he will be the A side.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by bluebeam
                  I see you don't know how things work, so let me explain it to you.


                  Errol would be the A side over bud because they both have 2 ppv fights under their belts and Errol outsold Crawford on both.

                  Ruiz has never fought on ppv therefore he won't be the A side against Wilder.


                  Wilder will be 3 or 4 ppv's in by the time he fights Ruiz. Therefore he will be the A side.
                  Thats how you work that out? Where was you when Deontay was demanding A side status against Joshua? Make sure you use that everytime now, make sure to not put that method back in the cupboard when all of a sudden it doesnt suit your narrative.

                  Im pretty sure there is only YOU that feels thats all that is needed to figure out who isnt and who isnt the A side in a fight negotiation,

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                    #19
                    I'm not worried about it to be honest.


                    Until the bodies make a path for undisputed we really shouldn't expect it.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by bluebeam
                      I see you don't know how things work, so let me explain it to you.


                      Errol would be the A side over bud because they both have 2 ppv fights under their belts and Errol outsold Crawford on both.

                      Ruiz has never fought on ppv therefore he won't be the A side against Wilder.


                      Wilder will be 3 or 4 ppv's in by the time he fights Ruiz. Therefore he will be the A side.
                      There is no way in hell Ruiz, should he win this weekend, will accept anything less than 50-50 against Wilder. I don't know who is the A-side definitively cause an argument can be made for either man. But you're deluding yourself is you think Ruiz is going to play along with Wilder and Haymon when he has the majority of the belts.

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