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  • Those arent bad numbers for a non ppv worthy fight. I didn't even think it would generate that much. The numbers are nothing to celebrate about but it does tell us that if wilder fights Ruiz, joshua & fury again we'd see numbers over 500k, which aint so bad. Seeing a million ppv buys for any of those fights in the us is a tough ask for fighters in a division that just came alive a few years ago. Not sure why some of you are so spiteful. Be realistic & have realistic expectations.

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    • Decent numbers

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      • Originally posted by daggum View Post
        do the math and they need a million buys or so. maybe more depending on the purses. haymon created a monster. a money losing monster that is eating him
        I don't know what Wilder's or Fury's guarantees are for their rematch, but I agree that it could be a money loser.
        There's talk that Haymon showed Wilder a path to actually match the $120m that DAZN offered him over four fights. I heard he got like $15m+ for Brezeale in addition to the $20m for Ortiz. So at that rate, he would need like $40-50 million per fight for his next two fights to reach $120m(!).

        However, I wouldn't be surprised if both are on something like $20m guaranteed for PPV fights + a % of the PPV revenue. And PBC/Top Rank probably showed them estimates of what they would make given 1 million+ buys.

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        • Just waiting for a BoxingScene accountant to total the gate and ppv money, mention that the network gets half, and call it a flop.

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          • Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
            It don't matter. No matter how many times I'm correct ahead of time people don't believe. Things I said a year ago are coming true now. Things I'm saying now will be true in a year or so. The stuff I was saying about DAZN a year ago is things DAZN is saying now.
            Dan rafael already posted 225k buys doe

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            • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
              Wilder won fair and square with no controversy. The haters that complained the first time, Wilder gave a rematch and clarified things.
              after getting outboxed for almost 7 rounds wilder answered all of his nuthuggers prayers. What would you guys have done if he didn’t get that KO?

              Now u guys brag about 225k ppv buys lol. Manny Pacquiao was doing this types of numbers when he was a featherweight vs Morales etc before he had crossed over and you guys wanna try and brag. The nut huggery on boxingscene is unbelievable.

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              • Those are good numbers for a rematch on PPV. It exceeded my expectations I didn't think it would do that much.

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                • Originally posted by techliam View Post
                  Other than Fury or Joshua, it doesn’t look likely that Wilder has a PPV future, if his biggest threat match up could get 275k as a generous estimate

                  What other opponents can they force on PPV?
                  I don't know. I think the big thing we can take away is that we don't have any genuine PPV stars in boxing right now outside of Canelo and Pac-man and Canelo is on DAZN.

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                  • Originally posted by doom_specialist View Post
                    Just waiting for a BoxingScene accountant to total the gate and ppv money, mention that the network gets half, and call it a flop.
                    The network gets 5%, not 50%.

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                    • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                      The network gets 5%, not 50%.
                      Where you come up with that? So cable provider set up the network, routers, feeds, lines, manpower, etc but only get 5%, LOL? They'd finish in the RED for every event they host. Sorry but you have to be kidding. That's like saying the movie theatres only get 5% instead of 50% of the gross. Wilder/Fury earned about 8 and 9 mil respectively which would fall in-line with 45-50% network take. Based on this 5% notion, the event was GReen even with 27 mil in purses going to Wilder and Ortiz. industry sources have already said they will try to recoup the RED in the wilder/fury rematch.
                      Last edited by hhh1200; 12-04-2019, 11:11 PM.

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