AJ/Ruiz purse is an 8 to 1 ratio?

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  • Bundt
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    AJ/Ruiz purse is an 8 to 1 ratio?

    The purses for the anticipated rematch between heavyweight boxing stars Andy Ruiz Jr. and Anthony Joshua have been revealed.


    So the article says that the champ is making $10m but the contender is making $85m. This is way worse than arguments over 60/40 and 70/30 splits. Who are Ruiz’ advisors? They need to be fired quickly and lose their contract negotiation licenses. Contracts aren’t written in stone, they can always be negotiated, especially when one side holds the belts.
  • A.K
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    Did you forget Joshua has a huge deal with dazn like canelo or..

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    • Toffee
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      #3
      Originally posted by Bundt
      https://www.bjpenn.com/boxing-news/a...a-rematch/?amp

      So the article says that the champ is making $10m but the contender is making $85m. This is way worse than arguments over 60/40 and 70/30 splits. Who are Ruiz’ advisors? They need to be fired quickly and lose their contract negotiation licenses. Contracts aren’t written in stone, they can always be negotiated, especially when one side holds the belts.
      It wasn't a split - it was an agreed fee.

      Contracts can be negotiated - but you need leverage to do that. Ruiz had precious little leverage beyond the time and annoyance factor (which he used well).

      Avoid the fight, get sued, tied up in court so your belts are stripped, and future earnings get paid straight to Joshua. If Joshua had a contract for $85m then Ruiz could have been in the him for those lost earnings.

      On the plus side, he earned $6m or $7m in June, another $10m coming in December and he's currently the unified Heavyweight Champion of the World.

      Not the worst deal for a bloke fighting for relative pennies 8 months ago.

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      • soul_survivor
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        Hows this a bad deal ? If the numbers are correct that is.

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        • Bundt
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          #5
          Originally posted by A.K
          Did you forget Joshua has a huge deal with dazn like canelo or..
          The champ should have a respectable ratio, even a 30/70 is respectable. All that posturing by Ruiz and his people about fighting in SA only got him ten. I think SA citizens get a $1m handout just for being a citizen.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Bundt
            https://www.bjpenn.com/boxing-news/a...a-rematch/?amp

            So the article says that the champ is making $10m but the contender is making $85m. This is way worse than arguments over 60/40 and 70/30 splits. Who are Ruiz’ advisors? They need to be fired quickly and lose their contract negotiation licenses. Contracts aren’t written in stone, they can always be negotiated, especially when one side holds the belts.
            First of all I dont think any publication truly know the numbers, I bet sometimes they are pretty close but most of the time way off...second i dont know why the interest in b side purses are a thing all of a sudden. Joshua has been much fairer to b side fighters than many superstars of the past, if you consider what some fighters made against Tyson, mayweather, Roy etc.

            Joshua is very fair...Andy Ruiz has made similar money in these two as Juan Manuel Marquez made in 5 fights against Floyd and Manny...think about that for a second. He made $17 million in two fights, after his previous highest pay day was barely 6 figures. If he beats Joshua again, I'm sure he'll get a bigger cut against Wilder and Fury, that's generally how things go...Joshua didn't become a cash cow over night, he won the Olympics, he kept winning and getting kos, eventually against good fighters. He had the right ingredients, but he also earned that position by taking on some dangerous fights.

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            • Bundt
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              #7
              Originally posted by Toffee
              It wasn't a split - it was an agreed fee.

              Contracts can be negotiated - but you need leverage to do that. Ruiz had precious little leverage beyond the time and annoyance factor (which he used well).
              ....
              Not the worst deal for a bloke fighting for relative pennies 8 months ago.
              Hearn turned the tables then on PBC as the last paragraph is a common PBC/Mayweather talking point. Ruiz advisors should have put monetary negotiations in the court of public opinion to turn the tide in his favor to eek out just a bit more. All the dad bods of the world would clamor for Ruiz to get a respectable salary commensurate with his belts and accomplishment.

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              • Robbie Barrett
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                #8
                A fighter goes from fighting for a 100k to 10 mil and it's a bad deal? Joshua is the draw, he's not a charity. If the opponent makes **** all himself he should be grateful for whatever he gets.

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                • Articulateboxin
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bundt
                  The champ should have a respectable ratio, even a 30/70 is respectable. All that posturing by Ruiz and his people about fighting in SA only got him ten. I think SA citizens get a $1m handout just for being a citizen.
                  Well he's contractually and legally obligated to fight for the fee disclosed in the contract. From what I remember, Hearn actually engaged legal proceedings. At this point, a 20% or so increase was settled upon.

                  Yes the figures are outrageous, but this is why you have a manager and a promoter. Having said that, Ruiz begged (literally) for the fight and naturally accepted almost any terms available. As it is, he's earning millions that he would otherwise never be earning if he hadn't secured the fight and accepted it under the terms as they were.

                  Put it this way, if Ruiz had went back when offered the original contract and said - I want 50-50 in the rematch, or 70-30 or whatever, I doubt he would have got the first fight anyway. He made as much as he probably could and fair play to him for earning himself the fight anyway!

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                  • Lopez_Boxing
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                    Because AJ is still the man and unfortunately thats how business works.

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