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  • CauliflowerEars
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    #31
    Originally posted by Boxing_1013
    ...yeah race plays a role in a lot of things this is true...it is a big identifier and unifier for people as much as it is a divider, but people always choose to focus on the negative and play the victim so many cry foul about race all the time, even where no real issue is evident.

    If the inverse of this were true and a future Crawford fight was on the Loma main card, I would just look at that and say it's smart business...and that's how I view this situation...not that Bob was 'favoring Crawford' or vice versa...you guys just don't really understand how business works I suppose.

    Loma has more options to fight than Crawford right now...Crawford has been more or less xed out by PBC so he is in a tougher spot...things like that just happen in boxing sometimes...he still has been given PPVs vs Postol and Khan...pretty big star treatment there, would you agree?

    Btw Bob is ***ish...***s traditionally have a better relationship with the black community than the white community...but that goes against your narrative here so I'm sure you will try and explain that away.

    But do you man...you can keep playing the victim and crying about everything that goes wrong and playing the race card...and it will largely get you nowhere in life...so if that's the route you want to take go ahead.

    Or you can realize that in some situations today a person's race may be used against them, and in some cases that same person could have advantages because of their race...to ignore those instances where being black for example is an advantage just gives you no real credibility.
    A nice bit of objective truth there.
    There are many people of color around that refuse to argue their race is a disadvantage. They refuse to identify with a victim mentality. They choose to see the positive perspectives, find common ground across race and religion, and unite rather than divide.
    This kind of attitude tends to yield prosperity and benefits, regardless of skin color.

    I acknowledge racial injustice exists and am 1000% against it. I'll speak up if I see it in retail or the barbershop. But by and large I'm in charge of me. I feel I do my part by not having a racist bone in my body and promoting unity.
    Some people spend time and energy making non racial issues about race. They have a "filter" on, by which they view the world. One day they will realize this was Not time and energy, well spent.
    Peace.

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    • Boxing_1013
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      #32
      Originally posted by CauliflowerEars
      A nice bit of objective truth there.
      There are many people of color around that refuse to argue their race is a disadvantage. They refuse to identify with a victim mentality. They choose to see the positive perspectives, find common ground across race and religion, and unite rather than divide.
      This kind of attitude tends to yield prosperity and benefits, regardless of skin color.

      I acknowledge racial injustice exists and am 1000% against it. I'll speak up if I see it in retail or the barbershop. But by and large I'm in charge of me. I feel I do my part by not having a racist bone in my body and promoting unity.
      Some people spend time and energy making non racial issues about race. They have a "filter" on, by which they view the world. One day they will realize this was Not time and energy, well spent.
      Peace.
      Well said my friend...injustice does indeed exist...but I think we are all blessed to live in a time of great prosperity and opportunity...if someone really wants to be successful today, I think 99% of them can...but someone could have all the talent in the world, but if they see obstacles continually in their way, it will never happen for them.

      Mentality and attitude is so important in my opinion...it is good imo as well to stand up for what you feel is right, but you shouldn't let it take all your energy away, or turn your energy negative.

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      • R-Hand Southpaw
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        #33
        Originally posted by Goldie
        Obviously I can’t answer for what’s in somebody else’s head. Maybe the thread starter does think that race is why loma is getting better promotion over Crawford. Why didn’t you ask him if he thought that race was the issue?

        Why did I not ask the thread starter if race is an issue? Because I already KNOW the answer to that question and I dont like asking dumb questions.

        Plus. What kind of person admits to their own racist agenda?


        Better yet let me ask you, why do you think that loma gets more promo than Crawford since you’ve immediately dismissed race as being a factor?

        Lomachenko is getting more promotion because there is more to promote. Weird how that works right?

        Boxing is very much a what have you done lately sport and given you were in Bob's position you would do the exact same thing.

        Who has a better back story?
        Who has a better resume?
        Who has the best fights coming up?
        Who has a better future going forward?

        Lomachenko hands down. If you need me to elaborate I will. Its unfortunate but talent alone doesnt make you famous. Does Bud have the talent. Yep. But everyone has heard his story told through nearly ever single other fighter and to top it off he doesnt help himself out there either. He has zero personality. I also am not really a fan of his style and dont see the hype everyone gives him. Top 10 p4p for sure but where? Tough to tell.


        To be fair to the guy who accused you of being racist, people who use the term “race card” are generally racist.

        Guy assumed I was white based on me "defending" a white fighter. Then when i told him to stop playing his race card, I know how it is because I'm Asian, he called told me to "quit projecting my white inferiority " onto him, a black guy. There is no "to be fair" there.

        That's no different than the **** you see on the media. For example White woman calls cops on black man outside her apartment. White people defending her said white women would say the exact same thing you're saying. To be fair she didnt know the black guy. To be fair blah blah blah.

        Do you think that's fair?

        And I disagree with what you are suggesting. I get where you come from but some people think because they're a minority they cannot be racist. Or they are secret supremacists hiding behind the guise of equality. You tell me.


        Answered in BOLD

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        • Goldie
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          #34
          Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw
          Answered in BOLD
          Anybody who accuses blacks of being racist for pointing out how race is a factor in a situation, is someone too ****** cowardly an b*tchmade for me to even take seriously.

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            #35
            that's what the pbc fanboys (like the op) were hoping...that arum will screw him up and for crawford to fail for signing up an extension with top rank instead of transferring over to pbc.

            wish granted boys...time to rejoice

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              #36
              Originally posted by Goldie
              Anybody who accuses blacks of being racist for pointing out how race is a factor in a situation, is someone too ****** cowardly an b*tchmade for me to even take seriously.
              You're so busy seeing race in all these situations that you aren't even living your life man...every one of your posts is about this topic or something similar.

              Gotta look at the positives instead of dwelling on the negatives all the time.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                Oh yeah you're really tough man, you're about as tough as Jeb Bush...yeah race plays a role in a lot of things this is true...it is a big identifier and unifier for people as much as it is a divider, but people always choose to focus on the negative and play the victim so many cry foul about race all the time, even where no real issue is evident.
                Who do you think that you are to tell a black person when race is an issue and when it’s not? You’re nobody. You people have some nerve.

                Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                If the inverse of this were true and a future Crawford fight was on the Loma main card, I would just look at that and say it's smart business...and that's how I view this situation...not that Bob was 'favoring Crawford' or vice versa...you guys just don't really understand how business works I suppose.
                I couldn’t care less what you think about this situation or any hypothetical situation. You don’t even understand the point of the thread apparently because you’re too ****** to comprehend. The thread starter isn’t denying that throwing Crawford on the card is “good business”. That’s his point. Arum is throwing Crawford on the card to help promote Loma. The role that race plays in all of this is in how much more Arum is investing in Loma vs Crawford despite the fact that Crawford is an American fighter.

                You cowards are so paranoid about acknowledging anti black racism that you can’t even think straight when blacks bring the issue up. It’s pathetic.

                Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                Loma has more options to fight than Crawford right now...Crawford has been more or less xed out by PBC so he is in a tougher spot...things like that just happen in boxing sometimes...he still has been given PPVs vs Postol and Khan...pretty big star treatment there, would you agree?
                This is all a deflection. If Loma has all of these options then why is he fighting someone that he needs help from Crawford to promote? It’s because his last fight flopped. Dude isn’t popular despite all that Arum has invested and all of the free media hype. Loma isn’t popular in America or Europe. Doesn’t matter which option he takes(outside of fighting an already established name like Pacquiao), his fights will flop. There’s no reason that TR should be investing so much more in him over Crawford.

                Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                Btw Bob is ***ish...***s traditionally have a better relationship with the black community than the white community...but that goes against your narrative here so I'm sure you will try and explain that away.
                My only narrative here is that race is a factor in why TR invests much more in Loma than Crawford. The historical relationship between white ***s and blacks is completely irrelevant. Not that you have the slightest idea about what you’re talking about on that relationship anyway.

                Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                But do you man...you can keep playing the victim and crying about everything that goes wrong and playing the race card...and it will largely get you nowhere in life...so if that's the route you want to take go ahead.
                I’d bet money that I’m farther in life than you. I’d also bet that my IQ IS at least 20 points higher than yours. Seriously, you sound like an idiot and that weak psychology you’re trying to run is laughable.

                Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                You're so busy seeing race in all these situations that you aren't even living your life man...every one of your posts is about this topic or something similar.

                Gotta look at the positives instead of dwelling on the negatives all the time.
                Take your own advice. What I choose to “dwell” on doesn’t have anything to do with you.

                I would love to talk boxing without focusing on the racism but boxing is a very racist sport(always has been) and unfortunately you cowardly closeted racists make it impossible to not acknowledge the racism. The tactic of using shame to try and silence blacks and keep us from calling out the racism doesn’t work on me.

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                • R-Hand Southpaw
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Goldie
                  Anybody who accuses blacks of being racist for pointing out how race is a factor in a situation, is someone too ****** cowardly an b*tchmade for me to even take seriously.
                  Who said that? WHO? Put it up in quotes! Do it!

                  Put where I suggest the **** you say. Do it! No one said that other than yourself!

                  There are a lot of good objective opinions that have been posted in this thread and NONE including myself have suggested what you are suggesting.

                  You think I'm racist for suggesting that race isnt the end all huh? Because I don't agree with your **** ass opinion?

                  Lmfao. Keep playing the victim. Idgaf to prove **** to a waste of time and space like yourself. Keep living the pathetic ass life you live believing the ****** ass **** you do.

                  Calling me a coward? You're a ****ing coward. When it comes down to it you will ALWAYS use the color of your skin as your defense as you just proved.

                  That's being a ****ing coward.

                  Good day.

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                  • Goldie
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw
                    Plus. What kind of person admits to their own racist agenda?
                    You can pms and throw hissy fits all you want, it’s not going to distract from the truth. You accused the thread starter of having a ”racist agenda“ for inferring that race is a factor in why TR invests more in Loma than Crawford despite Crawford being a homegrown American fighter.

                    Not only are you an absolute yellow bellied coward, you’re slow to boot. My skin color is never a defense. This brain, 2 fists, 2 feet, and those things in the safe that I’ve got licenses for are.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Goldie
                      You can pms and throw hissy fits all you want, it’s not going to distract from the truth. You accused the thread starter of having a ”racist agenda“ for inferring that race is a factor in why TR invests more in Loma than Crawford despite Crawford being a homegrown American fighter.

                      Not only are you an absolute yellow bellied coward, you’re slow to boot. My skin color is never a defense. This brain, 2 fists, 2 feet, and those things in the safe that I’ve got licenses for are.
                      - -U got Goldylocks protection?

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