Porter/Spence vs Wilder/Ortiz PPV #s

[Boxing_1013]

Just trying to figure out what these fights really sold...and why Porter/Spence reportedly sold much better than Wilder, who is a KO artist HW (HWs historically bring in the bigger numbers)...just makes 0 sense to me.

I would think Wilder/Ortiz 2 would sell a bit better than Porter/Spence...maybe 125k to 75k.

The PPV era is basically dead, and there are only 2 PPV guys left in the sport right now (AJ doesn't really count as PPV guy since he is in the UK but he can sell too).

So it is with no disrespect to those guys to say that those where my projected PPV numbers for those fights...just that there are only 2 guys right now - Canelo and Pac - who could sell 200k+ PPVs vs basically anyone.

[KTFOKING]

NO one has reported on what Wilder vs Ortiz did. So how do you know it didn't do better than Spence/Porter?

It means all the reporters were trying to get in touch with the people that would know and those people were like, nah it’s Thanksgiving week I’m outta here

— Fistianados Podcast (@Fistianadospod) November 29, 2019

It was that way for me lol!

— Fistianados Podcast (@Fistianadospod) November 29, 2019

[Boxing_1013]

NO one has reported on what Wilder vs Ortiz did. So how do you know it didn't do better than Spence/Porter?

It happened a week ago, and every 'report' I've seen has been on the negative side...no word of any good numbers.

Do you have anything that says otherwise?

[KTFOKING]

It happened a week ago, and every 'report' I've seen has been on the negative side...no word of any good numbers.

Do you have anything that says otherwise?

There has been NO report on what the fight has done. What you are hearing about 2,500 buys or 80k buys is coming from just trolls.

I have heard nothing....Because the ones that do report the numbers haven't said anything....Well, hadn't said anything before today. I haven't searched around today, so maybe there will be some reports of what it did, but I know up until yesterday, there was nothing.

[bballchump11]

Nobody knows how the Wilder vs ortiz fight did. Yall need to stop reporting on fake news and find something else to do with your lives. It's Thanksgiving weekend. Don't y'all have families?

[Boxing_1013]

There has been NO report on what the fight has done. What you are hearing about 2,500 buys or 80k buys is coming from just trolls.

I have heard nothing....Because the ones that do report the numbers haven't said anything....Well, hadn't said anything before today. I haven't searched around today, so maybe there will be some reports of what it did, but I know up until yesterday, there was nothing.

Well I take the numbers with a grain of salt anyway...I still don't really believe Spence-Porter sold that well...but I will be shocked if they say Wilder-Ortiz didn't do better than Spence-Porter...and I don't see the market for where Wilder-Ortiz would do better than 200k at all.

Kind of a paradox.

[Boxing_1013]

Nobody knows how the Wilder vs ortiz fight did. Yall need to stop reporting on fake news and find something else to do with your lives. It's Thanksgiving weekend. Don't y'all have families?

Who is reporting on fake news...sounds like you're in the wrong thread or something man.

It happened a week ago brother...if the news was good, it would surely have come out by now...yes I hung out with mine the past 2 days. That was enough.

[KTFOKING]

Well I take the numbers with a grain of salt anyway...I still don't really believe Spence-Porter sold that well...but I will be shocked if they say Wilder-Ortiz didn't do better than Spence-Porter...and I don't see the market for where Wilder-Ortiz would do better than 200k at all.

Kind of a paradox.

I mean for Spence/Porter you have MULTIPLE people report around the same range, so not sure what else you would want. I even posted from the ranges different reporters including Hearn said it did and it was around the same ballpark.

If Wilder/Ortiz did less than Spence/Porter, then it is clear that Spence is the biggest American star at the moment. He would have done back to back PPVs better than Wilder and he even did a 2.3M gate in LA.

[Boxing_1013]

NO one has reported on what Wilder vs Ortiz did. So how do you know it didn't do better than Spence/Porter?

It means all the reporters were trying to get in touch with the people that would know and those people were like, nah it’s Thanksgiving week I’m outta here

— Fistianados Podcast (@Fistianadospod) November 29, 2019

It was that way for me lol!

— Fistianados Podcast (@Fistianadospod) November 29, 2019

There has been NO report on what the fight has done. What you are hearing about 2,500 buys or 80k buys is coming from just trolls.

I have heard nothing....Because the ones that do report the numbers haven't said anything....Well, hadn't said anything before today. I haven't searched around today, so maybe there will be some reports of what it did, but I know up until yesterday, there was nothing.

Nobody knows how the Wilder vs ortiz fight did. Yall need to stop reporting on fake news and find something else to do with your lives. It's Thanksgiving weekend. Don't y'all have families?

Btw...I swear the weirdest thing about this site is the insistence for a lot on here to defend not just fighters, but also their PPV numbers, promoters, etc.

Like it's bizarre...I like GGG but if someone talked sh.it about his PPV numbers, well he just isn't really a PPV guy on his own, almost no one else is in the game today, there is no shame in that.

You guys getting all emotional over PPV numbers and refusing to believe that PPV is basically dead and that most guys don't sell these days...I mean I don't really get that angle.

[bballchump11]

Who is reporting on fake news...sounds like you're in the wrong thread or something man.

It happened a week ago brother...if the news was good, it would surely have come out by now...yes I hung out with mine the past 2 days. That was enough.

Or people are on vacation.