Nobody can outbox Wilder for 12 rounds. Period

[boliodogs]

You have to take chances to beat him. The only man who didn't take chances was Stiverne and he couldn't outbox him

Fury outboxed him but couldn't do it for 12 rds.

Ortiz outboxed him for 7 rds.

You just can't do it for 12 rounds.

Just because Ortiz and Fury did not go 12 rounds without getting knocked down doesn't mean it's impossible to do. Both of them throw very few punches a round. A good boxer with a much higher work rate might be able to win most of the rounds from Wilder just by outworking him. Wilder also has a low punch output. Don't be saying it can't be done just because Fury and Ortiz failed. There may be others who could beat him and perhaps knock him out. You don't know until they fight. Nobody thought Ruiz would KO AJ but he did. Don't be so sure of things because you don't know and are only guessing.

[Citizen Koba]

You have to take chances to beat him. The only man who didn't take chances was Stiverne and he couldn't outbox him

Fury outboxed him but couldn't do it for 12 rds.

Ortiz outboxed him for 7 rds.

You just can't do it for 12 rounds.

Fury outboxed him for 12 rounds it's just that Deontay doesn't need to outbox someone to lay them out. He doesn't need to win the full round or even the majority of it. In fact he only needs to win about 0.2 seconds plus the count. That's what makes him so damn dangerous. He's justifiably criticised for his lack of orthodox skills, but people will seem to forget that the purpose of a boxing match is simply to win. If you got a tool that will do that reliably then building your entire strategy around that ability makes a lot of sense.


I still say Deontay is probably a KO waiting to happen, but as long as he keeps laying out the other guy first I ain't really got any justification for complaining about his lack of defense, and I can't really see what anyone's issue is.


That said I still can't see any way he deserved the draw against Fury.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Please post the facts, I'd love to have a read.

Thanks in advance

Spin it however you like

[PRINCEKOOL]

Maybe so, but there will be a time when? 1

[Dariusz]

Of course it is possible. One needs a very good chin and great stamina.

[Articulateboxin]

Spin it however you like

I remember Hearn citing this as 1 of the reasons the first fight might not happen. As it was, Fury beat the WBC deadline and submitted his application in time

[Dean_Razorback]

fury already did that

[Toffee]

Fury already did it.

Ortiz is an unproven pensioner and even he should have beaten him in the first fight, and then made the most ridiculous mistake in the second when completely out boxing him.

The power is real but he can't rely on landing his lottery ticket every time.

[Dean_Razorback]

also, lol at people saying his chin is good, it is not good at all

[Robbie Barrett]

Since when has it ever been a requirement to win every round? How many fights does a fighter win 12 rounds? Even against bums a fighter usually drops atleast 1 round if it goes 12.