Tyson admitted being on coke in fights. So what if...

[Combat Talk Radio]

Have you ever done coke?? if you have you would know it isnt possible for a boxer to be fighting high unless they were snorting in the corner between rounds....******* doesnt work like that at all man..guys would be so down after 30 minutes with would be sad

Then explain Tyson/Savarese.

[Larry the boss]

Then explain Tyson/Savarese.

explain what???

[Sweet Scions]

Then explain Tyson/Savarese.

Well if you're Iron Mike and you can blast the guy out in 1 you're pretty much good, haha. Dangers like taxing of the cardiovascular system would come into play more over the course of a grueling 12 round dogfight. Use in pro sports definitely happens but I think a lot of it is based on misconception of what it's actually doing to the body, or athletes just placing a premium on the mental effects with a disregard for the physical risk, or factoring that as calculated risk. The euphoria/sense of invincibility it instills is at weird odds with the additional strain it places on the body. I have no problem believing he was coked out of his gourd in that and other outings though

[Combat Talk Radio]

Well if you're Iron Mike and you can blast the guy out in 1 you're pretty much good, haha. Dangers like taxing of the cardiovascular system would come into play more over the course of a grueling 12 round dogfight. Use in pro sports definitely happens but I think a lot of it is based on misconception of what it's actually doing to the body, or athletes just placing a premium on the mental effects with a disregard for the physical risk, or factoring that as calculated risk. The euphoria/sense of invincibility it instills is at weird odds with the additional strain it places on the body. I have no problem believing he was coked out of his gourd in that and other outings though

But that's what I'm saying. If you're strong enough to spark guys out in a round, two at the most, you DO benefit in terms of confidence and energy.

Many fighters, that's all they lack. They go in fighting scared. Like Young Eubank against Saunders. Imagine that same Eubank cooked out of his mind, balls to the wall aggressive. I'm not sure Saunders handles it.

Thats all I'm saying. Certain fighters MIGHT benefit if confidence is all they lack but they have the tools otherwise.

Besides, it can argued that Tyson was half the fighter when he was clean. How do you explain that if coke isn't beneficial?

[Johnny2x2x]

Didn’t Pryor have ******* in his water in his corner? I could see in very low doses it maybe having a positive effect, but being really high in coke and fighting would be asking for a cardiac arrest.

[Sweet Scions]

But that's what I'm saying. If you're strong enough to spark guys out in a round, two at the most, you DO benefit in terms of confidence and energy.

Many fighters, that's all they lack. They go in fighting scared. Like Young Eubank against Saunders. Imagine that same Eubank cooked out of his mind, balls to the wall aggressive. I'm not sure Saunders handles it.

Thats all I'm saying. Certain fighters MIGHT benefit if confidence is all they lack but they have the tools otherwise.

Besides, it can argued that Tyson was half the fighter when he was clean. How do you explain that if coke isn't beneficial?

To that I would just say it isn't that there aren't obvious hypothetical benefits to be had, just that they come with potential life threatening drawbacks. You could obviously argue that maybe the goalposts are a little different with presumed world class athletes in peak condition and that a specimen like Mike would have more physical leeway against dangers like cardiovascular overload, but it's risk all the same. So while it could certainly make someone predisposed to being a killer even moreso, not without considerable threat to their immediate safety, to the extent I'd never advocate it.

[Combat Talk Radio]

To that I would just say it isn't that there aren't obvious hypothetical benefits to be had, just that they come with potential life threatening drawbacks. You could obviously argue that maybe the goalposts are a little different with presumed world class athletes in peak condition and that a specimen like Mike would have more physical leeway against dangers like cardiovascular overload, but it's risk all the same. So while it could certainly make someone predisposed to being a killer even moreso, not without considerable threat to their immediate safety, to the extent I'd never advocate it.

I don't disagree. But just imagine someone like Broner walking into the ring high on some white ish.

[Sweet Scions]

I don't disagree. But just imagine someone like Broner walking into the ring high on some white ish.

Or Charlos! But let's get real, that's already a thing. *dodges tomatoes*

[champion4ever]

All I know and to my knowledge; Mike Tyson has never tested positive or failed a post-fight piss test for ******* in his entire professional career. He did fail a post fight urine test for cannibis however, against Andrew Golota though.

[Larry the boss]

Didn’t Pryor have ******* in his water in his corner? I could see in very low doses it maybe having a positive effect, but being really high in coke and fighting would be asking for a cardiac arrest.

No it was crushed up asthma pills