Wilder is for real, I admit... but...

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Why would the WBO title be vacant if the IBF is next in the rotation?

There is no reason that the WBO belt has to be dropped,

The IBf is due no one can hold on to the WBO ,Usyk has said he wants that title ,hes mando for it .If the IBF is due one belt has to go and in an AJ win, he would want Usyk to win that belt so he can fight him for it under the same promotion Dazn .

Wilder fans.....WOW.

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Again..... I NEVER claimed Chsisora SHOULD or COULD fight for the WBC title...... no where in my brain or comments did I EVER insinuate that.

This argument is all on you and other posters.... and I find it hilarious how dumb you are.

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But you did argue that Wilder has been carefully managed to avoid your mythical pressure fighter archetype.

And I'm just pointing out that if any such fighter exists all he has to do is earn a shot at Wilder or win a belt to entice him into a unification. Then he would smash Deontay and all the glory would be his.

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The IBf is due no one can hold on to the WBO ,Usyk has said he wants that title ,hes mando for it .If the IBF is due one belt has to go and in an AJ win, he would want Usyk to win that belt so he can fight him for it under the same promotion Dazn .

Wilder fans.....WOW.

Why can no one hold on to the WBO? Why does one belt have to go if they have all been participating in the rotation system up to this point?

[Vinnykin]

Neither Wilder of Fury can fight on the inside[B][I][.

Fury is well-known for his inside game....... the rest of what you said I will not even explore.

Explain to me and BoxingScene how Tyson Fury doesn't have an inside game....

[Boxing101_]

Mostly agree with you, but what is the point of this thread? Are you asking a question or just stating this in general?

there is no point of this thread, just another guy who wants to have his opinion heard.

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Why can no one hold on to the WBO? Why does one belt have to go if they have all been participating in the rotation system up to this point?

Never mind......can someone explain simple stuff to this poster about vacating titles when due ? I gave it a shot.

Disclaimer : Hes a wilder fan.

[Vinnykin]

But you did argue that Wilder has been carefully managed to avoid your mythical pressure fighter archetype.

And I'm just pointing out that if any such fighter exists all he has to do is earn a shot at Wilder or win a belt to entice him into a unification. Then he would smash Deontay and all the glory would be his.

Yes...... I see you actually read my comments now and are not throwing ridiculous comments at me regarding Chisora's WBC status

IF any fighter exists they can expect to wait years before being given their shot..... or.... maybe Wilder will be given a franchise status by the WBC? who knows honestly? what I do know is Wilder carefully managed by his team into fights and he will not fight ANY fighter that goes against his style (also they have to fight in his backyard so he can be saved).

What is the point in even going for a world title as none of the sanctioning bodies (bar the IBF) actually enforce them.

[otrocubiche]

I have always been critical of Wilder's boxing ability, even harsh and disparaging towards him, caught up in my own bias...... I now see the method to his boxing and how ingeniously he has been managed.

Wilder is good and manages to get KO's and wins against either over-matched, or slow, straight-up fighters who try to box him from the outside.

I am a Fury fan and spent the whole fight against Wilder screaming at him to go inside on this guy, pressure him, lean on him etc He did outbox him but got caught twice and gave Wilder the draw in his backyard, which was always going to happen. OK, it wasn't the best Fury and took him 4 rounds to shake the rust off, but Wilder got his two KD's which is fair.

Why do people who fight Wilder stay in the danger zone and never make sudden and explosive moves on him? pressure him inside? Fury didn't do it because he was not 100% and tried to beat him at his own game, got caught twice and gave Wilder the draw..... Ortiz, Spzilka .... they all end up the same - crumpled on the floor!

I might be laughed at in the comments to this particular comment, but I have never seen any one put it on Wilder and pressure him, take away his range and punch and drag him into a dogfight...... Chisora or Wallin or Povetkin style.... someone who comes forward and just tries to land bombs........

I need to see Wilder in against an opponent who will pressure him, stay on his chest and take away his distance.... put it on him, is fast, explosive..... it is the only way to beat him other than Fury outboxing him and dodging his punch for 12 rounds (which no one would put money on including myself).

Ortiz was absolute Dogshiat in there... do not be fooled by the scorecards which makes him out to have done well.... Wallin did better in losing rounds than Ortiz did winning them..... slow as treacle, both hands and feet.... no pressure at all..... just pitty-pat boxing and let Wilder box comfortable for 6 rounds until Wilder landed a nuke on his dome lol

On your own sig there's a clip of Wilder fighting inside, do you think anybody wants any piece of that?

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Never mind......can someone explain simple stuff to this poster about vacating titles when due ? I gave it a shot.

Disclaimer : Hes a wilder fan.

There has been a system in place. Where heavyweight title mandatories happen according to a rotation, and the champion doesn't have to vacate the other titles as long as he sticks to the rotation.

This goes back to the Klitschko era.

Can you explain why this is going to change now? Or can't you?

[Marchegiano]

I've been thinking exactly the same thing myself. There's a reason why Wilder won't fight Dillian Whyte and it's the same reason why he used every trick in the book to delay fighting Povetkin when he was WBC mando. Wilder dodged a bullet when Povetkin tested positive for meldonium.

Pov asked for more time, not Deontay. It was done publicly, watch the final Wach presser.