Wilder is for real, I admit... but...

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Hooker (WBO) vs Ramirez (WBC)?..... title unification in the Junior Welterweight division.

Explain....

WBC says concerning Wilder they do not recognize the WBO as a legit title . What is there to explain ?

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The WBO will be a separate title after the Ruiz fight ,Usyk is fighting for it. Nope seems you are ****** again on here. Aj or Ruiz will be have to let go of that one ,the IBF is next in line ,keep up.

Top Rank Says Pulev, Not Usyk, is Next in Line For Ruiz or Joshua

https://www.boxingscene.com/top-rank-says-pulev-not-usyk-next-line-ruiz-joshua--144255

[Vinnykin]

You're blabbing on and on about some mythical pressure fighter with fast hands and fast feet and a good chin and good power who will beat Wilder.

If a fighter like that exists all he has to do is work his way to a title
shot against Wilder. Or win one of the other titles in order to tempt Wilder with a unification.

It's simple.

ALLLLLLLllllllll he has to do is get in mandatory position.... this one style...... ahahahahahahahaha

listen to yourself....... Wilder has fought how many mandatories? Stiverne and Breazeale..... none of whom..... FOUGHT their way into position!!!!! they were bought rankings.... none of them even Fought good opponents to get there!!! ahahahahaaha just like Wilder did..... look at HIS fights leading up to the monster champion, Bermane Stiverne

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Top Rank Says Pulev, Not Usyk, is Next in Line For Ruiz or Joshua
https://www.boxingscene.com/top-rank...joshua--144255

Pulev is in for IBF , like I said the WBO will be separate title . I didn't even mention Pulev I said Usyk will be fighting a vacant WBO title . You said unification will happen and im the ****** one ? Ha

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ALLLLLLLllllllll he has to do is get in mandatory position.... this one style...... ahahahahahahahaha

listen to yourself....... Wilder has fought how many mandatories? Stiverne and Breazeale..... none of whom..... FOUGHT their way into position!!!!! they were bought rankings.... none of them even Fought good opponents to get there!!! ahahahahaaha just like Wilder did..... look at HIS fights leading up to the monster champion, Bermane Stiverne

He has to get in mandatory position or offer the opportunity of unifying belts.

This isn't a charity where you let anyone fight for the heavyweight championship just because you like his style.

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I have always been critical of Wilder's boxing ability, even harsh and disparaging towards him, caught up in my own bias...... I now see the method to his boxing and how ingeniously he has been managed.

Wilder is good and manages to get KO's and wins against either over-matched, or slow, straight-up fighters who try to box him from the outside.

I am a Fury fan and spent the whole fight against Wilder screaming at him to go inside on this guy, pressure him, lean on him etc He did outbox him but got caught twice and gave Wilder the draw in his backyard, which was always going to happen. OK, it wasn't the best Fury and took him 4 rounds to shake the rust off, but Wilder got his two KD's which is fair.

Why do people who fight Wilder stay in the danger zone and never make sudden and explosive moves on him? pressure him inside? Fury didn't do it because he was not 100% and tried to beat him at his own game, got caught twice and gave Wilder the draw..... Ortiz, Spzilka .... they all end up the same - crumpled on the floor!

I might be laughed at in the comments to this particular comment, but I have never seen any one put it on Wilder and pressure him, take away his range and punch and drag him into a dogfight...... Chisora or Wallin or Povetkin style.... someone who comes forward and just tries to land bombs........

I need to see Wilder in against an opponent who will pressure him, stay on his chest and take away his distance.... put it on him, is fast, explosive..... it is the only way to beat him other than Fury outboxing him and dodging his punch for 12 rounds (which no one would put money on including myself).

Ortiz was absolute Dogshiat in there... do not be fooled by the scorecards which makes him out to have done well.... Wallin did better in losing rounds than Ortiz did winning them..... slow as treacle, both hands and feet.... no pressure at all..... just pitty-pat boxing and let Wilder box comfortable for 6 rounds until Wilder landed a nuke on his dome lol

Neither Wilder of Fury can fight on the inside, Tyson Fury at elite level thus-far has been a one trick pony 'But all in all, your observation/concerns of Deontay Wilder are correct'.

Fighters are stand offish against Wilder because of his power, also his mentality. Wilder seems only concerned with one thing? Landing a blow which is going to end the fight 'That ultimately is his game-plan in every single round'. Where as other fighters may be preoccupied with tactically breaking their opponents, establishing a jab, taking the center of the ring and so on. Wilder has by his own admittance has explained and come to acceptance that a lot of fighters at elite level may take rounds off him. But at some point he has great self belief in his own tactics penetrating his opponents tactics at some stage in the fight 'And in every single fight he has had? None of his opponents no matter how skilled, have been able to stop his tactics overwhelming them at some stage'.

Tyson Fury in reality was knocked down twice and once brutally 'Fury could not deter Wilder, or stop his game plan from eventually penetrating through his illusionary tricks'.

The big questions in the heavyweight division now are: Can any fighter survive Deontay Wilder's power? Can any fighter deter Deontay Wilder and knock him off his game plan? Is there any fighter who can at-least take some of his power, and then make him pay badly in the process 'Forcing him to doubt himself inside of the ring'.

Muhammad Ali effectively did this to George Foreman in Zaire, he not only took George Foreman's power he beat him up in the process.

Note: There is no use in heavyweight fighters, playing along with this status quo that? Soon as Wilder lands a big punch, it is over. But this is essentially the mass belief that is being drummed into every single heavyweight in the game. To his credit, Tyson Fury before their first fight in my opinion 'Did not buy into Wilder's power' I honestly don't think he was massively phased by his power until the 12th round. From my perspective there are just far too many heavyweights, who are now stepping into the ring with Wilder who are afraid.

[Vinnykin]

WBC says concerning Wilder they do not recognize the WBO as a legit title . What is there to explain ?

I will need a link and evidence please.... there are numerous unified WBC and WBO champions.

What is there to explain? you just claimed something that goes against everything I know and understand...... explain yourself and with evidence to prove your points.

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Pulev is in for IBF , like I said the WBO will be separate title . I didn't even mention Pulev I said Usyk will be fighting a vacant WBO title . You said unification will happen and im the ****** one ? Ha

Why would the WBO title be vacant if the IBF is next in the rotation?

There is no reason that the WBO belt has to be dropped,

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He has to get in mandatory position or offer the opportunity of unifying belts.

This isn't a charity where you let anyone fight for the heavyweight championship just because you like his style.

Again..... I NEVER claimed Chsisora SHOULD or COULD fight for the WBC title...... no where in my brain or comments did I EVER insinuate that.

This argument is all on you and other posters.... and I find it hilarious how dumb you are.

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I will need a link and evidence please.... there are numerous unified WBC and WBO champions.

What is there to explain? you just claimed something that goes against everything I know and understand...... explain yourself and with evidence to prove your points.

The WBC says they do not see the WBO as a legit title when it was concerning wilder ! Find someone else to hook a link I cant do it on my platform .