CANELO Schools ESPN Deportes: ''Golovkin Was No Monster''

[AKAcronym]

Y’all claim Canelo couldnt make 154 anymore but he made 154 against Liam Smith after all those fights at 155...

Kind of su****ious that the one fight he went to 154 again had no testing. Pretty convenient don't you think?

[Caxcan]

My 2 cents: It's often overlooked that GGG had a significant tactical advantage over Canelo going into their first fight because Canelo had faced top fighters with different styles by that point so everyone was able to assess his strengths and weaknesses. However, with GGG there wasn't much to go on since Jacobs was the first middleweight with a wrinkle in his game that he'd faced, and much of GGG's reputation was based on HBO hyping his string of knockouts against second rate and tailor made opposition.

IMHO one of the biggest mistakes Canelo made in his career was showing GGG as much respect as he did in the middle rounds of that first fight. He started well and finished strong, but in the middle rounds I suspect he may have been conscious of his stamina issues and GGG's supposed one punch knockout power, and showed more restraint than he needed to because he could have won a UD outright by letting his hands go more. In the later rounds when he decided to stand and trade at the center of the ring, I think it clicked once and for all that GGG's power wasn't as monstrous as advertised. For the record, I found the reaction to the draw over the top, because it had indeed been a close fight and ultimately GGG still retained his titles and status as champion.

Controversy over the decision aside, It was a grueling fight in which both fighters absorbed and dished out punishment. In other words, it was unlike anything GGG had experienced. Pretty much all he'd known as a pro is that when he lands flush, guys go down and most of the time they don't get back up. Yet with Canelo he was facing a guy capable of taking his best shot then still answering back with counters and combinations. Again, GGG performed well and he has a great chin, but he did absorb more punishment in that fight than long stretches of his career combined, and I suspect it may have caused him to second guess himself for the first time. I found it telling that GGG was willing to turn down such a massive payday for the rematch and the fight was ultimately only salvaged at the last minute when GB gave into his inflated financial demands.

Nevertheless, going into the rematch team GGG continued thumping their chests about being the epitome of Mexican style while questioning Canelo's manhood and even Mexican identity, basically trying to goad him into fighting what they thought was the wrong fight for him. They didn't realize that coming out aggressive was Canelo's plan all along, so they were caught with their pants down when he came out aggressively and behind power at the center of the ring. That seed of doubt in GGG's mind seemed to take hold because he frustrated his own corner by abandoning their plan and backing up while throwing mostly jabs and once again refusing to risk throwing to the body. Simply put: GGG's decision to back up as the bigger man and harder puncher was one of the most baffling decisions in recent years especially given the circumstances including all their talk, while Canelo's decision to bring the fight to GGG was one of the ballsiest.

Some people try to claim controversy over this decision in the rematch like with every Canelo fight, but he beat GGG by the standards his own team put forth, and even his own trainer said you're a whiny hypocrite if you complain about the decision ( he seemed equally baffled by GGG and surpised by Canelo). HBO's hype of GGG was definitely over the top (even Kellerman agrees), but in no way was he simply a hype job. He was a talented and dangerous fighter, so props to Canelo for going in there and effectively taming that beast.

[boliodogs]

Cash Cow spitting facts.
A lot of GGG’s groupies have gone MIA but they were all over here saying Canelo wouldn’t last 5 rounds. Easy KO for Borat.
Some even said Canelo wouldn’t be his toughest fight.
Hindsight is always 20/20.

Lots of Canelo GROUPIES are full of sh it. The vast majority of viewers world wide thought GGG deserved to win both fights and Canelo only won because it was in Vegas where the bought and paid for judges are always going to score the close fights for Canelo. Any neutral city in the world and GGG wins both fights. Canelo only beat the champion by one point on the closest possible split decision but he is scared shi tless to give the champ a rematch. Canelo is no monster. His fights are very carefully planned out to favor him in every way including the timing, the age and recent record of his opponent, weight draining clauses and always that Vegas location. Canelo was 15 to 1 to beat Fielding, 4 to 1 to beat Jacobs, and 5 to 1 to beat Kovalev. He was the underdog in both GGG fights and is still only even money against GGG who he refuses to fight. Let him fight an undefeated champion like Beterbiev, Bivol or Callum Smith for a change.

[boliodogs]

Anything to build up Canelo and tear down GGG. You must be upset that so many think Kovalev was paid to lose to Canelo. Team Canelo had to do damage control but still so many think Kovalev lost on purpose. Anyway Canelo only averaged 30 punches a rould against Kovalev and only 31 punches a round against Jacobs. Canelo has knee problems and stamina problems that are getting worse. His days on top are numbered so he must keep cherry picking his opponents and avoid the guys like Bivol, Callum Smith, Benavidez, GGG and most of all Beterbiev who is in Canelo's current weight class.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Anything to build up Canelo and tear down GGG. You must be upset that so many think Kovalev was paid to lose to Canelo. Team Canelo had to do damage control but still so many think Kovalev lost on purpose. Anyway Canelo only averaged 30 punches a rould against Kovalev and only 31 punches a round against Jacobs. Canelo has knee problems and stamina problems that are getting worse. His days on top are numbered so he must keep cherry picking his opponents and avoid the guys like Bivol, Callum Smith, Benavidez, GGG and most of all Beterbiev who is in Canelo's current weight class.

I produced this episode for ESPN Deportes.

[Death_Adder]

Says the guy who couldnt make 154 anymore and camped out Golovkin 3 years at 155 because he was too afraid to move up.

Then after getting a gift draw in Vegas in the toughest fight of his career to that date gets slammed by all the mexican media for running. Then gets popped with PEDs and suspended. Then wins a highly controversial decision that no one again believed he deserved.

Canelo fans like to rag on GGG for not moving up to fight ward and suggesting a catchweight of 164.

Now imagine 155lb Canelo telling GGG who is in the same class to come down to 155.

Oh but Canelo is the A side!

In ward vs GGG who do you think the A side is? GGG.

IMAGINE GGG telling Callum smith hell only fight him but at a catchweight of 161 with a rehydration clause LMFAO.

Golovkin is nothing but he was never a 5 to 1 underdog like Kovalev. Golovkin was nothing but as soon as he edged a fight out

In vegas with home team scoring
PED boost
Another full year aging GGG (5 YEARS NOW)
with scores if 115x2 and 114-114

He ran instead of making the fight conclusive. Oh GGG is nothing that's why it's the best name on his resume. Oh. GGG is nothing but Canelo doesnt want a fight until GGG is 39 years old.

Lmfao. Canelos a killer.

It never took Canelo 3 years to make the fight moron. Look at when he fought Cotto until he fought 97k. Less than two years.

Sit your ass down idiot.

[ruedboy]

The diva speaks:
"Fear died when I was born."
"Let's put the gloves on right now"
"It the fans want a third fight, we'll do it."
"First get a belt"
"Mexicans don't *** around!"

[boliodogs]

My 2 cents: It's often overlooked that GGG had a significant tactical advantage over Canelo going into their first fight because Canelo had faced top fighters with different styles by that point so everyone was able to assess his strengths and weaknesses. However, with GGG there wasn't much to go on since Jacobs was the first middleweight with a wrinkle in his game that he'd faced, and much of GGG's reputation was based on HBO hyping his string of knockouts against second rate and tailor made opposition.

IMHO one of the biggest mistakes Canelo made in his career was showing GGG as much respect as he did in the middle rounds of that first fight. He started well and finished strong, but in the middle rounds I suspect he may have been conscious of his stamina issues and GGG's supposed one punch knockout power, and showed more restraint than he needed to because he could have won a UD outright by letting his hands go more. In the later rounds when he decided to stand and trade at the center of the ring, I think it clicked once and for all that GGG's power wasn't as monstrous as advertised. For the record, I found the reaction to the draw over the top, because it had indeed been a close fight and ultimately GGG still retained his titles and status as champion.

Controversy over the decision aside, It was a grueling fight in which both fighters absorbed and dished out punishment. In other words, it was unlike anything GGG had experienced. Pretty much all he'd known as a pro is that when he lands flush, guys go down and most of the time they don't get back up. Yet with Canelo he was facing a guy capable of taking his best shot then still answering back with counters and combinations. Again, GGG performed well and he has a great chin, but he did absorb more punishment in that fight than long stretches of his career combined, and I suspect it may have caused him to second guess himself for the first time. I found it telling that GGG was willing to turn down such a massive payday for the rematch and the fight was ultimately only salvaged at the last minute when GB gave into his inflated financial demands.

Nevertheless, going into the rematch team GGG continued thumping their chests about being the epitome of Mexican style while questioning Canelo's manhood and even Mexican identity, basically trying to goad him into fighting what they thought was the wrong fight for him. They didn't realize that coming out aggressive was Canelo's plan all along, so they were caught with their pants down when he came out aggressively and behind power at the center of the ring. That seed of doubt in GGG's mind seemed to take hold because he frustrated his own corner by abandoning their plan and backing up while throwing mostly jabs and once again refusing to risk throwing to the body. Simply put: GGG's decision to back up as the bigger man and harder puncher was one of the most baffling decisions in recent years especially given the circumstances including all their talk, while Canelo's decision to bring the fight to GGG was one of the ballsiest.

Some people try to claim controversy over this decision in the rematch like with every Canelo fight, but he beat GGG by the standards his own team put forth, and even his own trainer said you're a whiny hypocrite if you complain about the decision ( he seemed equally baffled by GGG and surpised by Canelo). HBO's hype of GGG was definitely over the top (even Kellerman agrees), but in no way was he simply a hype job. He was a talented and dangerous fighter, so props to Canelo for going in there and effectively taming that beast.

Even after Sanchez was fired as GGG's trainer he still said GGG beat Canelo both fights. 8 rounds to 4 in the first fight and 7 rounds to 5 in the second fight. That is the way most of the world saw those two fights between GGG and Canelo. Most think he clearly won the first fight and edged him out again in a closer 2nd fight. Canelo fans and GGG haters know popular opinion is that GGG won both fights but did not get the W. Canelo only fights the hard guys in Vegas and everyone knows why that is. Golenboy and team Canelo love that Vegas edge on the scorecards. They make sure they only fight the difficult fighters in Vegas.

[F l i c k e r]

That probably hurts him more than anything else in boxing. When his own people sort of doubt his legacy and downplay his wins.

welcome to the peak of boxing Canelo.

[Thuglife Nelo]

That probably hurts him more than anything else in boxing. When his own people sort of doubt his legacy and downplay his wins.

welcome to the peak of boxing Canelo.

Of course. Patriotism. Is Floyd American? How many American sports writers or industry wrote off Floyd? ''All-American'' doe.

Comes with the territory.