Is DAZN making any money?

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  • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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    #11
    Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
    This has nothing to do with Canelo. I know that’s the only reason you’re a DAZN fa.

    ”espn cancelled their free trial are they failing?“

    You named one out of four things I listed lol.
    Did you read what I wrote? I said they will be in business for a long time but they won’t be in the boxing business for a long time. Not too hard to understand.
    you fools are weird.

    Why would I care if dazn fails or not, im just speaking the truth.

    I didnt fully read everything you wrote and heres why, cause you a troll type of poster, you have a read bar, I skimmed what you wrote and everything was false that I skimmed (see how I disprove everything in my previous reply) so why waste my time reading the rest.

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    • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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      #12
      Originally posted by .!WAR CANELO!.
      you fools are weird.

      Why would I care if dazn fails or not, im just speaking the truth.

      I didnt fully read everything you wrote and heres why, cause you a troll type of poster, you have a read bar, I skimmed what you wrote and everything was false that I skimmed (see how I disprove everything in my previous reply) so why waste my time reading the rest.
      Same reason you wasted your time replying with two paragraphs weirdo

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      • bballchump11
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        #13
        Obviously not

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        • strykr619
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          #14
          Originally posted by turnedup
          Some business models are loss leaders to create market share, you can be worth billions without making a dime profit just because of the chunk of the market you hold. Dazn is one of those businesses that accounted for losing money upfront to get it on the backend
          You mean Kind of like how Amazon was for its first 15 years of its existence?

          Only started turning a profit when AWS (Amazon web services) got its FED contracts.

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          • brettWall
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            #15
            No they're not making any money with the lavish spending they're doing. How do you even count it if they do? That's why it's so ****** to ask for percentage split because there's no PPV to split up in the first place.

            DAZN don't even have a clue how much the value of a fight is. They just spend, spend, spend. Yet some morons here suggest they do and have to offer double, triple.
            Last edited by brettWall; 11-21-2019, 11:23 PM.

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            • Fanofreason
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              #16
              Originally posted by Inspired
              Look at Roman Abramovic in football. He came in as a Rusian oligarch, playing fantasy football through Chelsea FC, spending money as he wanted. He isnt as wealthy as Blavatnik, yet it was no problem for him because Chelsea were meant to be his hobby. He spent well over £1billion on Chelsea in that time.
              He stopped spending big when he lost money in the stock market dip 11 years back..but he made more money on the recovery. The arabs also made big money on the recovery buying stocks cheap, then got into football (abu dhabi got Manchester City and Qataris got PSG) at which point Abramovic couldnt compete.

              Furthermore, due to Britain's strained relationship with Russia, Roman Abramovich couldnt get a british passport and now lives in Israel, so he's not spending on Chelsea, but they're a profitable club all the same.


              Dazn don't need to spend big money beyond their original commitments eg the Matchroom 8 yr deal and any deals they have with canelo/ggg.
              Aside from all that, the owners of dazn are primarily in the sports betting/data monetisation business. The broadcasting side is only as a consequence of their original business (perform group/opta sports) because they get to own the data outright. I imagine there's way more money in the sports betting industry. They entered boxing in the US only when sports betting was legalised, which ought to tell you where they intend to profit from.
              However, boxing has so much potential for global growth..the idea of reaching the middle classes in east asia, the middle east, eastern europe is totally feasible if the prices are reasonable. Those markets are so damn big, esp when people are increasingly ditching regular tv/cable for streaming. We've seen just how big these other markets are for the success of most social media platforms and other apps. eg tik tok, bigo, those type of apps are huge.
              imagine dazn got 10m global subs? That's $1b a yr!! imagine they start introducing targeted ads and again monetising subscriber's data.
              espn have around 86m subs in the US alone.

              plus, i dont know how much money circulates in betting on a single fight card..but since sports betting has only just become legal in the US, it has huge huge growth potential here. It is a long way off from the far east in numbers. Put into context, they only need to fix the odd fight and take their % from the betting companies they work with, to make a killing on the side.

              clever bastards.
              They sold off the sports betting part to cash flow Dazn.

              Yea they are screwed.

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              • Monzon99
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                #17
                Originally posted by giant_king
                i been saying that from the beginning.joshua took a huge dive.not just business wise but to protect himself from deontay as long as possible to gain more experience.because they know once deontay gets them belts it would be tough for them to get it back without juicing up to the gills
                Your theory is half right. It was Wilder who could have been Ruiz but WIlder and Haymon ducked the $120m payday to fight Haymon's patsy Breazeale.

                Joshua and Hearn have pushed relentlessly to get Wilder only to be met with excuse after excuse and duck excuse.

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                • Thuglife Nelo
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                  #18
                  the PBC shills as usual posting in DAZN threads. I like that random new ''ashik'' poster flooding Wilder vs Ortiz which is just subtextually an alt trying to remind forum members of the fight. fight will probably tank

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #19
                    I think DAZN execs have learned from their first months in business and have made some changes to continue to grow. They seem to be trying to reach out to the markets on the East Coast they kind of neglected.

                    They look to have corrected the problem with the glitches of the service when they have a large number of viewers. It appears they are profitable outside of America. They are now actively looking to make a deal with a major American sport so they can go to the next level.

                    Once they reach the next level I don't know if they will continue to invest in boxing because they will need resources for support programming.

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                    • Marchegiano
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                      #20
                      I'm sure they're fine. I dunno, but, it seems to me *******s on a forum don't know either.



                      Honestly, you'd never guess how **** turns up. I got paid 10K to be on Showtime for about 3 mins, a section of a segment, that's all. Dr. Phil wants me to show up for a free trip and hotel....My point is you can't hardly look at the public info and guess what happens in meetings.

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