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The other thing with Wilder is despite his looks he seems to lack a bit of conditioning. After Fury got up in the 12th round Wilder couldn't finish him off and then WILDER was clinging on to Fury in the last minute. Maybe it was cumulative fatigue after he threw and missed so much against Fury?Comment
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Yeah youre probably right matethat first fight was a massive fix mate. we dont know how much 'they' profited from the fix...but it was enough for dazn's parent company to 'seperate the two businesses' and then merge into another company eg to keep their books seperate from dazn.
most people are clueless..they dont even realise dazn got into american boxing as soon as sports betting was legalised in the US.
nor do they realise dazn's parent company is/was entirely involved in providing data to the sports betting industry.
the whole card was one big william hill ad.
multiple fights were fixed eg josh kelly getting a gift draw when he clearly lost. katie taylor getting a gift win when it was a loss or a draw at the very least.
can you imagine the spread betting on that card? when you saw such fixes, would anyone doubt aj blitzing ruiz?
aj: people talk about how i predicted i would knock ruiz out in the 7th round whilst i had my hand on the william hill logo
it was just a coincidence.
watch the fight..all specially coordinated. like when aj went to the ropes at the end of the 3rd and he purposely placed his head for ruiz to 'catch him' and went flying into the ropes.
that 7th round 'quit' was all part of it.
the guy who knew they'd fixed the fight, was sam watson..and he was visibly pissed off postfight.
there were multiple reasons why they'd do it. eg kill the potential of an aj vs wilder superfight becoming so big that it only works on ppv (or have to pay $300m+ up front which they would not generate via subs at this stage). wilder rejecting the dazn offer was the final straw..they realised they had to try play a different game.
they got the attention and mexican subs for the rematch.
as dazn have repeated many times, aj losing was good for them.Comment
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How's your tinfoil hat going?that first fight was a massive fix mate. we dont know how much 'they' profited from the fix...but it was enough for dazn's parent company to 'seperate the two businesses' and then merge into another company eg to keep their books seperate from dazn.
most people are clueless..they dont even realise dazn got into american boxing as soon as sports betting was legalised in the US.
nor do they realise dazn's parent company is/was entirely involved in providing data to the sports betting industry.
the whole card was one big william hill ad.
multiple fights were fixed eg josh kelly getting a gift draw when he clearly lost. katie taylor getting a gift win when it was a loss or a draw at the very least.
can you imagine the spread betting on that card? when you saw such fixes, would anyone doubt aj blitzing ruiz?
aj: people talk about how i predicted i would knock ruiz out in the 7th round whilst i had my hand on the william hill logo
it was just a coincidence.
watch the fight..all specially coordinated. like when aj went to the ropes at the end of the 3rd and he purposely placed his head for ruiz to 'catch him' and went flying into the ropes.
that 7th round 'quit' was all part of it.
the guy who knew they'd fixed the fight, was sam watson..and he was visibly pissed off postfight.
there were multiple reasons why they'd do it. eg kill the potential of an aj vs wilder superfight becoming so big that it only works on ppv (or have to pay $300m+ up front which they would not generate via subs at this stage). wilder rejecting the dazn offer was the final straw..they realised they had to try play a different game.
they got the attention and mexican subs for the rematch.
as dazn have repeated many times, aj losing was good for them.Comment
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Nothing crazy about what i'm saying. Eg Dazn entered boxing in the US when sports betting was legalised. Dazn is secondary to Perform group's primary industry, sports betting ie dazn was only set up when perform group realised the need to own the data outright rather than work with other broadcasters.
Remember perform group seperated from dazn only 2 weeks before the AJ fight. They were about to run the scam.
You have to be pretty dumb to think boxing is a legit sport. It's corrupt on a whole different level.
Remember Oscar's loss to Felix Trinidad? or Pac's to Bradley and Horn?
It's why Bob Arum said 'That wasn't AJ in that ring' and why he said 'Eddie Hearn doesnt know **** about boxing in the USA'. He knew to capture interest you have to fix fights.
Dazn owned Showtime/pbc that night. They killed the prospect of aj-wilder blowing up into a ppv megafight they couldnt afford to pay for (as in, a megafight like mayweather-pacquaio that generates millions of ppv buys and would cost dazn too much). it's why wilder turned down the dazn offers. it was about proving the subscription model can't work on megafights. The likes of Ellerbe and Schaeffer have talked about how a subscription model can't compete with a ppv model for megafights.
There is truth to this in the sense that in a subscription model no single star with earn what floyd did vs pacquaio and mcgregor.
It's the reason Sam watson looked like he wanted to cry in the ring that night.Comment
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That's better, you've at least offered a reasonable argument against.
It depends on the individual and how he sees the bigger picture in the long run. Remember when Lennox Lewis got knocked out by Rahman? (i know that was more to do with his foot positioning when the punch landed). People can still look at that and know that an elite HW can still get ko'd badly like that and come back. We've heard it for years, from the likes of Fury and AJ that any big man can knock out a top HW simply because they'll punch heavier. There's truth to this statement because whilst bigger men have thicker skulls, it isnt at the same ratio as smaller people eg someone twice your size won't have a skull twice as thick. also their nerves aren't any more protected in relative terms to a smaller gu, so in relative terms they're actually built weaker.
The basic point which you obv understand is that it's easier for a hw to get knocked out by another hw. We've seen Fury get knocked down and badly get hurt by guys like Cunningham and Mccdermot. We know for sure that Wilder got ****ed up by Scorniers and in amateurs (as did aj, in the same way). so all in all, that humiliation isn't as great as you imagine it to be.
The narrative hasn't been against him anywhere close to what you think. I've not seen much humiliation..and if anything he's been in good spirits about it. He carried himself perfectly after the fight and instead gained more fans.
It's ultimately about the dominating narrative and marketing behind a fighter.
Dazn's execs have also talked about how somehow AJ is more popular after it. There is truth to this statement because had he won, most people would not give a ****..by losing, it became THE topic of sports. Believe it or not, aj losing, was a bigger story online than England winning the cricket world cup in the best game/final of all time (offtopic, but the cricket world cup final was insane and something you could not make up, esp given the backstory of Ben Stokes).
Tyson praised him. Wilder insisted it was Eddie Hearn's fault and that AJ was concussed. Then you've had the likes of Tony Bellew refuse to make excuses and say 'he got hit by the perfect punch'...and in that manner they've turned the narrative into praising Ruiz and pushing the point that every fight is dangerous if you don't do your homework (which is obv true anyway).
The rematch is huge and AJ is earning far more than he would have otherwise aswell.Comment
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Wilder was almost knocked out that why he ran into a right hand and had to hold on. Wilders condition is very good because hes light and doesn't throw in volume, he avoids active fighting ,that's why he gets his one punch wins while losing fights per round. its a one trick poney and that's why im going with Ortiz to get robbed on scorecards.Comment
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