Which win is more impressive, in Pac/Thurman or Canelo/Kovalev

[FredRekk]

who did he knock out ?

Yo Mama!!!

[boliodogs]

Pac by a mile to me. Thurman fought his heart out. Kovalev never threw a hard punch the whole fight that I saw and did not fight like a guy who was trying to win the fight in my opinion.

[John Locke]

Any version of Thurman is better than any version of Kovalev. And the Canelo that fought Kova is in his prime, whereas Pacman isn't. No doubt which is the better win. Not even debatable really.

[Joe Beamish]

Pac Thurman super easy

Yup. Kovalev has been getting knocked out for half of his fights for awhile now. He’s done, basically. Ward ended him. Not a real fight. Just a cherry pick for the A side Canelo.

Canelo looked good, don’t get me wrong. But Pac/Thurman was a real matchup. And Thurman DIDN’T quit.

[aboutfkntime]

Any version of Thurman is better than any version of Kovalev. And the Canelo that fought Kova is in his prime, whereas Pacman isn't. No doubt which is the better win. Not even debatable really.

oh wtf... ?

LMAO

FACT: Kovalev was a killer
FACT: Thurman was not a killer

wtf... ?

Kovalev > Thurman... NOT EVEN CLOSE

the only question is, how much did Kovalev have left... and the SAME question hung over Thurman, who has never looked the same since returning from inactivity

add to that, Canelo jumped TWO divisions and he knocked Kovalev out

the only other question is Manny's performance at 40yo

a number of 40yo's (or close) have beaten better fighters than Thurman... but very few people have jumped two divisions and knocked out Kovalev

[John Locke]

oh wtf... ?

LMAO

FACT: Kovalev was a killer
FACT: Thurman was not a killer

wtf... ?

Kovalev > Thurman... NOT EVEN CLOSE

the only question is, how much did Kovalev have left... and the SAME question hung over Thurman, who has never looked the same since returning from inactivity

add to that, Canelo jumped TWO divisions and he knocked Kovalev out

the only other question is Manny's performance at 40yo

a number of 40yo's (or close) have beaten better fighters than Thurman... but very few people have jumped two divisions and knocked out Kovalev

LOL! A killer of what? C level opposition? Same way Thurman was a 'killer' when he was fighting lower level competition. It really isn't even close, Thurman is more skilled, has a much better resume and isn't a mental midget like Kovalev.

Who is Kovalev's best win? BHop's corpse? Pascal who even at his best was a B level guy. Has Kovalev beaten anyone even close to the level of a Garcia or Porter?

Thurman didn't look much different than usual against Lopez, he was a little less sharper but you get rid of that with rounds. Thurman has been hurt in a lot of fights, to take away from Pac's credit people just saying he didn't look the same but don't want to explain how he didn't look the same.

Kovalev has been getting sparked out since the amateur days, he was a good fighter a few years back but nothing more. Look at his resume. He barely beat Chilema (who is a good fighter) in his prime...

[HeadShots]

oh wtf... ?

LMAO

FACT: Kovalev was a killer
FACT: Thurman was not a killer

wtf... ?

Kovalev > Thurman... NOT EVEN CLOSE

the only question is, how much did Kovalev have left... and the SAME question hung over Thurman, who has never looked the same since returning from inactivity

add to that, Canelo jumped TWO divisions and he knocked Kovalev out

the only other question is Manny's performance at 40yo

a number of 40yo's (or close) have beaten better fighters than Thurman... but very few people have jumped two divisions and knocked out Kovalev

A killer getting KOed by a pillow fisted 168er and a pillow fisted 175er. JFL has Thurman been KOed yet?

[aboutfkntime]

LOL! A killer of what? C level opposition? Same way Thurman was a 'killer' when he was fighting lower level competition. It really isn't even close, Thurman is more skilled, has a much better resume and isn't a mental midget like Kovalev.

Who is Kovalev's best win? BHop's corpse? Pascal who even at his best was a B level guy. Has Kovalev beaten anyone even close to the level of a Garcia or Porter?

Thurman didn't look much different than usual against Lopez, he was a little less sharper but you get rid of that with rounds. Thurman has been hurt in a lot of fights, to take away from Pac's credit people just saying he didn't look the same but don't want to explain how he didn't look the same.

Kovalev has been getting sparked out since the amateur days, he was a good fighter a few years back but nothing more. Look at his resume. He barely beat Chilema (who is a good fighter) in his prime...

Thurman barely beat Porter... and that is likely his best win

hell, he barely beat Danny Garcia lol

Kovalev arguably beat Andre fkn Ward

Kovalev was a killer... Thurman is a never-was

I was never sold on Thurman... he is not the same level fighter as Spence/Crawford, etc... not even sure he would beat Horn at this point

[John Locke]

Thurman barely beat Porter... and that is likely his best win

hell, he barely beat Danny Garcia lol

Kovalev arguably beat Andre fkn Ward

Kovalev was a killer... Thurman is a never-was

I was never sold on Thurman... he is not the same level fighter as Spence/Crawford, etc... not even sure he would beat Horn at this point

Okay now I think you're trolling...

Shawn Porter is a better fighter than Kovalev, so is Danny Garcia. They have better resumes, this isn't an opinion. 'Barely' beating them is still beating them.

Kovalev's best win is indeed a loss to Ward. Some 'killer'. Keith and Spence look about the same level to me, they have different skills and traits but didn't Spence also 'barely' beat Porter?

Anyway, you didn't directly address my points. Who has Kovalev beaten anywhere near Porter or Garcia's level? Sure he's a killer when he's fighting low level comp and 50 year olds...

[daggum]

Thurman barely beat Porter... and that is likely his best win

hell, he barely beat Danny Garcia lol

Kovalev arguably beat Andre fkn Ward

Kovalev was a killer... Thurman is a never-was

I was never sold on Thurman... he is not the same level fighter as Spence/Crawford, etc... not even sure he would beat Horn at this point

was is the key word here