Is it me or does Ortiz look in better shape for this fight?

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  • Toffee
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    #21
    Certainly looks better than he did when he came in against Hammer.

    Thing is, most pros look quick on the bag. Speed is relative to the speed of the thing in front of you.

    Regardless of the very dodgy scoring, Ortiz outboxed Wider first time around and should have finished him. We talk about lucky punches all the time - no-one ever mentions the one Wilder caught Ortiz with? It was beyond lucky. Even he was surprised that it got him.

    Wilder's improved in my opinion. Knows what he's about and doesn't try to be anything else. I think he ends Ortiz with a big shot, but he'll still get outboxed along the way.
    Last edited by Toffee; 11-15-2019, 07:43 PM.

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    • turnedup
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      #22
      He’s lighter and more fluid in his movement plus it seems like his family stuff has settled down a bit more. Not a fan because he failed a test and I stand by my thing of not being a fan of anyone failing tests but glad it’ll be a good fight and with no excuses. PED fails aside he’s a good man to his family and I wish him well.

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      • tophat1
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        #23
        I would agree he looks a good shape.

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        • elfag
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          #24
          Originally posted by man down


          check out the lift shoes his manlet trainer has to wear to work pads with him

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