FOX Sports: "Ruiz vs Wilder will be for PBC Heavyweight title"

[Curt Henning]

There is no doubt that this will fail. The PBC belt will hold zero leverage over someone who is an actual world champion, it will not make fighters want to fight for the PBC.

To date the PBC has not created a single star, they tried really hard with Spence yet the PPV still flopped. Expect the Wilder PPV to perform poorly as well. Their fighters fight on PPV, but they're not PPV stars.

PBC belt will have the same prestige as a regional belt, a domestic belt. It will be a belt that duckers hide behind and will use it as an excuse to avoid fighting the world's best.

spence was doing very well and building momentum untill he likely messed that up big time by being ******

wilder will have made more in his last 3 than any current US fighter has in their career

tank davis just turned 25 last week...he already sold out in his hometown...hes been on 7 straight showtime/ppv cards....he makes, in the ballpark, the same amount per fight as #1 p4p loma does.....and he just turned 25

the pbc guys are doing just fine......does oscar or bob arum have any other US born fighters out there killing it? does eddie hearn have any US fighters out there selling tons of ppvs and making huge bucks?!?!

LOL...NO!

[lieutenant]

lol...wilder will have made 27-30 mil over his last 3 fights after ortiz 2.....can you name me an active, US, fighter that has made that money in their career? you cant

also tell me the other names of US born fighters who are ppv stars right now with other companies...ill wait

Everyone talks about DAZN overpaying fighters, but how they managed to pay Wilder 10M to fight Brezeale on premium cable, only God knows.

Only thing that makes sense is they were investing in him for the eventual superfight with AJ, that has backfired emphatically. Now they're in the red and hoping to recuperate some of the money against Fury, who's now a bigger star than him.

[REDEEMER]

Everyone talks about DAZN overpaying fighters, but how they managed to pay Wilder 10M to fight Brezeale on premium cable, only God knows.

Only thing that makes sense is they were investing in him for the eventual superfight with AJ, that has backfired emphatically. Now they're in the red and hoping to recuperate some of the money against Fury, who's now a bigger star than him.

Well the Fury ship sailed already,in what was suppose to be a cherry pick had turned into a huge humiliation for Wilder ,people wish to forget you even had a panel of ATG picking Wilder and not one picked Fury and said it was near impossible for him to win not competing at high level in 3 years.

Fury will take wilders belt and the wilder group is trying to cash out with this farce PPV with Ortiz ,its a farce because no one wanted this one and if Wilder wins he gets a PPV with Fury ,his last as champion after that he will be chasing his belt crying about who is the biggest draw.,truly a somewhat demented guy its scarier then his punch .

[lieutenant]

spence was doing very well and building momentum untill he likely messed that up big time by being ******

wilder will have made more in his last 3 than any current US fighter has in their career

tank davis just turned 25 last week...he already sold out in his hometown...hes been on 7 straight showtime/ppv cards....he makes, in the ballpark, the same amount per fight as #1 p4p loma does.....and he just turned 25

the pbc guys are doing just fine......does oscar or bob arum have any other US born fighters out there killing it? does eddie hearn have any US fighters out there selling tons of ppvs and making huge bucks?!?!

LOL...NO!

No one is selling PPVs, only Canelo or Pacquiao would be able to consistently sell above 500k PPVs with the right opponent. The money doesn't mean crap in this climate. You have GGG with a very small fanbase making 100m over 7 fights. Danny Jacobs making 12M to fight Canelo and over 5M to fight Chavez Jr. Jose Ramirez making over 4M to fight Hooker. Every semi marketable fighter is making good money right now, I've been saying for a while it's a bubble.

AJ and Canelo are the only superstars in the sport, period.

[DARTH SILKWORMS]

MMA does not have a standing 300 year history of undisputed champions.

There hasn't been an undisputed heavyweight champion for twenty years. If the choice is five belts spread around or one premier belt, the public is going to prefer one premier belt.

You guys lose sight of the fact that millions of people are watching PBC that weren't watching boxing before. PBC training camp footage is doing more viewers than TR main events. It's not going to happen over night, but as far as the US is concerned, PBC as the UFC of boxing and TR as the distant Bellator is inevitable.

[Curtis Harper]

Real recognizes Real.....Promoter titles ain't real at all

[Robbie Barrett]

It takes some insane nuthuggery to back this. So you want PBC fighters to never fight any other promotions fighters? Don't bother calling yourselves boxing fans, you aren't.

[DARTH SILKWORMS]

PBC has two fighters on the TBRB top 10 p4p.

There's only two Americans in the TBRB top ten P4P.

PBC has both heavyweight champions, two super middleweight champions, two super welterweight champions, two welterweight champions and one featherweight champion.

That’s nine champions. There’s 68 championship belts out there.

Belts PBC controls or will soon control:

WBC WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE
SUPER WBA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE
IBF WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE
WBO WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE
WBA WORLD LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE
WBC WORLD SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE
IBF WORLD SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE
WBC WORLD MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE
WBC WORLD SUPER WELTERWEIGHT TITLE
SUPER WBA WORLD SUPER WELTERWEIGHT TITLE
WBA WORLD SUPER WELTERWEIGHT TITLE
IBF WORLD JUNIOR MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE
WBC WORLD WELTERWEIGHT TITLE
SUPER WBA WORLD WELTERWEIGHT TITLE
IBF WORLD WELTERWEIGHT TITLE
WBA WORLD LIGHTWEIGHT TITLE
SUPER WBA WORLD SUPER FEATHERWEIGHT TITLE
WBC WORLD FEATHERWEIGHT TITLE
SUPER WBA WORLD FEATHERWEIGHT TITLE
WBA WORLD SUPER BANTAMWEIGHT TITLE
INTERIM IBF WORLD JUNIOR FEATHERWEIGHT TITLE
WBA WORLD BANTAMWEIGHT TITLE

You say DAZN is destined to fail because you hate DAZN. There’s no evidence that it will fail. So no, that doesn’t just leave top rank LOL.

I don't hate DAZN. I say it will fail because it's been a giant failure so far with no end in sight. The business model doesn't work.

Top Rank also has Vasyl Lomachenko LMFAO.

He doesn't draw in the US. Nobody cares. People can't spell his name. He doesn't have any interesting opponents. HBO went out of business trying to rely on Eastern Europeans.

[MDPopescu]

Source: https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/s...135501829?s=19

The end of corrupt sanctioning bodies is near.

... Absolutely: what boxing really needs is more belts.
They should consider regular, diamond PBC belts, and interim, franchise PBC belts too.

[NEETzsche]

This is what I thought PBC would be aiming at from the start, but it took so long that I forgot about it. Personally I'm happy for them to give it a go, it can't be much worse than the current state of things