Serious Question. Who has the better Resume DSG or GGG

[Larry the boss]

See that's kind of my point...it's almost like people don't even follow some divisions here...Murray just came off a 'win' vs Sergio in Argentina before that GGG fight...and Sergio wasn't completely shot by that point.

Lemeiux was on a 9 fight win streak - and had a belt - including 7 KOs and 2 wins over Ndam and Rosado...I mean how people can hate on those wins for GGG...just makes 0 sense really.

To put those guys in the same league as Campbell and Holt...I mean wut...I would struggle to put those 2 guys as quality wins at all for Danny...they would be like GGG beating Wade...which is about his 20th best win...and those guys are like the 12th best win probably for DSG.

So yeah the outrage you appear to have at someone listing Murray and Lemieux as good wins...and you wanting to put literal 'whos' in there for Danny...I mean wut.

wtf is so impressive about beating Rosado?

[aboutfkntime]

How you have the boldness to rate the Murray and Lemieux fights as good wins is beyond me.

If you're going to count Murray, you may as well count Campbell, Holt, and Peterson too.

it is not boldness... it is casual-fan ******ity

that fool thinks Murray and Lemieux... are on the same level as Canelo/Jacobs

Lemieux, Murray pretty clearly around the level of SD Canelo Jacobs...
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...9#post20112309

the clown also thinks that Andre Ward is no better than Bika Barrera and Miranda

I just never really saw the skills from him..... if he was born in a different country I don't think he would have been looked at much differently than Bika Barrera or Miranda etc.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...2#post19903762

you are dealing with a fanboy idiot

[Boxing_1013]

I just feel like there is some caveman era type stuff on this site some time lol...like there will be some general opinions on here, that sometimes don't really vibe with reality...like with GGG a lot of the buzz on here is 'GGG bad, GGG resume bad'...then I just kind of come along and say "well it's pretty decent actually...got wins here over x y and z and a lot of other quality wins"....'arggg GGG bad, resume bad!!!!'.

Lol idk it's just bizarre stuff sometimes really...just don't really see the angle that he has a bad resume compared to others, or that Danny's is really that close to his...yeah just don't see it...based on official wins/performances etc...however one wants to slice it I just don't see it there.

[Boxing_1013]

wtf is so impressive about beating Rosado?

Well for one, he is a quality fighter...but try reading the whole thread before you post my man...maybe you will then understand the context of my comment and won't have to ask silly questions

[Boxing_1013]

wtf is so impressive about beating Rosado?

And if we were going there...I would list Rosado way down the list as a quality win for GGG, probably like his 15th best win, which isn't bad...and again that isn't what the comment was about...and hell Rosado would be a top 5 win for Jermell...so just keep that same energy for other fighters.

If Rosado is such a bum then I expect you to call most fighters bums and thus call most fighter's resumes shi.tty...just keep that same energy my man.

[Boxing_1013]

Danny Garcia obviously has a MUCH better resume than Golovkin

the only posters who disagree are casuals, who have no clue about levels

so yea... not surprised to see the usual class-clown frantically waving his GGG1013-flag

You're just a blatant racist man...your opinion is meaningless...you are so blinded by race hatred that you can't keep it real on fighters at all...sad life I bet.

[Boxing_1013]

I love and will love all these 'DSG's resume is better' comments...which go into minimal or no detail as to why as well

[aboutfkntime]

You're just a blatant racist man...your opinion is meaningless...you are so blinded by race hatred that you can't keep it real on fighters at all...sad life I bet.

no, son... I am not racist... you just pulled the race-card and then slinked out the back door because of the way I exposed/embarrassed you in this thread

kid, this is a adult world

you cannot say the following ******ity, and then pretend it never happened...

YOU SAID THAT DUMB SHlT !!

Lemieux, Murray pretty clearly around the level of SD Canelo Jacobs...
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...9#post20112309

the clown also thinks that Andre Ward is no better than Bika Barrera and Miranda

I just never really saw the skills from him..... if he was born in a different country I don't think he would have been looked at much differently than Bika Barrera or Miranda etc.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...2#post19903762

sorry for feeling compelled to embarrass you daily looooool


do you still think that Lemieux is on the same level as Canelo ? looooooool

[aboutfkntime]

sooooo, what do we have here.... oh right, a guy who thinks that Lemieux is on the same level as Canelo... is insisting that Hypekin has the best resume'... ???



this is like that one day a week in school where kids are allowed to stick their fingers up their bum and then lick them... for nutritional purposes loooool

[Citizen Koba]

Right and boxrec has GGG at 3 pfp...and Danny is like 15th...but I'm sure people will try to explain that away too...even though as you said, boxrec is pretty much the best way to compare official resumes, since all they are doing is ranking guys based on official wins.

Would need to discount some wins and prop some others up in that case...but that would probably affect Danny worse here...he has 3 wins over Erik Morales and Zab Judah which would probably be rated as way better wins than they should be at that time.

Don't mistake me, man. I don't subscribe to P4P at all, conceptually it's nonsense, and the Boxrec P4P is no better and probably worse than everyone else's... all I'm saying is that in this circumstance it's good for giving an idea of just what level the opponents were at when Danny and Gennady fought 'em.

Other thing is Boxrec weighs for KOs and dominance of wins too, and whilst I don't think that's unreasonable it might not be to everyone's taste... not sure if it fits the TSs parameters here.

As I said if I could actually be bothered putting the work in I'd be pulling out the divisional rankings (per TBRB or Ring if it was prior to 2012) of the guys they fought at the time they fought them, and rely on that for anyone in the top ten. Work up a comparison that way and maybe use Boxrec for loose rankings outside of the top 10.

Honestly though, man, you can't get away from the subjectivity in these kinda discussions. I for instance tend towerds the belief that there isn't really a huge difference in quality between divisions... that beating a top 5 WW or LW should be valued roughly as highly as beating a top 5 LHW or MW, given there's no direct way of comparing 'em, but I know theat ain't everyone's opinion.

It's also a observation of mine that mostly folk tend to belive the fighters that they see the most are better... if they're mainly winning of course. For US fans that typically means US fighters are rated higher and divisions deep with US are considered superior even if there ain't really any domonstrable proof.

Conversely European fighters often only make it over the pond or to the screens of US viewers when they're facing an elite opponent that they're expected to lose to... the victories that got 'em there ain't seen or remembered, merely the losses on the big stage. This is part of the reason you see solid top 10 guys refered to as 'bums' and 'cans' or the suchlike when equivalently ranked US fighters with similar losses are given more credit - cos US audiences saw them when they were actually winning.


Anyways... I'm rambling. IMO the resumes ain't a million miles apart, especally if you discount unofficial wins (and losses), Danny lost more and you'd have to say the guys he lost to weren't as good as Canelo, but his win over Matthysse is at least as good as anything on Gennady's official record.