Comments Thread For: Ellerbe: Smartest Move Wilder Made Was Turning Down DAZN

[Curt Henning]

He could've been the one to KO Joshua, make $120 million doing so, shoot his fame into the stratosphere and be the face of boxing, become as big as Tyson.

All of it gone.

How was that a smart move?

tough concept for you guys to understand that AJ/ruiz and wilder/breazeale would have happened anyway....and wilder would be waiting for the AJ/ruiz rematch too

that and he would have capped his potential earnings should he and AJ meet....now wilder is in a better seat(provided he keeps winning) should AJ get the belts back

[Curt Henning]

yeah wilder "doesn't take risks"

these clowns swore wilder got "embarrassed" and outboxed by fury...yet wilder is the one who tried, in earnest, to make an immediate rematch the world wanted to see.....yet fury ran to TR and espn with arum admitting they were putting the rematch off

nobody wanted to fight Ortiz....AJ only wanted him as a "replacement" after he saw wilder knock him out

dude said hed fight whyte and AJ back to back if hearn promised them both...hearn said "cant do that"

but I guess dude takes no risks in your fantasy world

[SchoolTheseCats]

That's BS. You'd have to be a fool to believe that. The only way we truly know if it was the smartest move or not is just how much of the 120m was guaranteed.

Wilder isn't doing big PPV numbers. So it is very unlikely he'll see anywhere near that type of money in the future. Now If Wilder was 24 it might make sense but at 34, he's already in the twilight of his boxing career.

I sum it up as Wilder just being a loyal dude.

He only would of saw 120 million if he fought Joshua... being as though Joshua is rematching his lost and contract was only a 4 fight deal safe to say he made right decision let’s not also forget dazn significantly decreases your pay if you not fighting the guys they outline you to in they contracts, we have saw pay decreases for triple G and canelo

[SchoolTheseCats]

Ellerbe talks as if KNOWS Wilder will never lose. Under Haymon control and fixing he won't lose.

And Ellerbe knows Wilder would have lost to Joshua and it would be game over.

At what point do you idiots wake up and realize Wilder is a total complete protected counterfeit fraud hoax pretender? AT WHAT POINT???!!!

Aj can’t take a punch to save his life, have no head movement and comes in fights very robotic.....what gives you the assumption wilder wouldn’t of connected on aj like he has done to every fighter he has fought?

[2ndroundko]

No he wasn't, they originally wanted it to be AJ's first fight this year but Wilder and his team weren't interested because they were getting the run around by Fury.

Wilder could've been the one to KO AJ and become undisputed for an insane amount of money, but he ****ed up. He'll never become undisputed now with the belts about to be fragmented.

you have no idea what you're talking about

[2ndroundko]

ok, still, say he signed the deal, he would've still gotten $20 million to fight Breazeale. How much did he get to fight him on Showtime? Half? Less? I know it wasn't $20 million.

yes and he'd be stuck right now without an opponent.

[SchoolTheseCats]

I thought he actually did end up getting a loyalty payday from PBC after this. Am I wrong ?

I could swear I read he got high 20 low 30 million guarantees for staying with PBC.

Breazeale fight he made 18million plus whatever his bombsquadz promotion made off merchandise and ticket sells for being Co promoters of fight, we don’t know what his purse is for the Ortiz fight but fox outbid showtime for it

[jdp28tx]

I dont understand it. Wilder turned down more money than hes likely to earn in the rest of his career combined out of loyalty. Then it was "We gotta make as much money as possible in this career". All these PBC boys seem to flip flop their answers, everything they say will contradict something else they said.

They believe the bull**** and hype that Haymon keeps telling them. 1. Haymon tells each of his fighters they will be the next Mayweather. 2 Follow his plan for their career and he will make them wealthy like Mayweather and famous like Mayweather.

The problem with Haymon's promises are he did not make Mayweather, Mayweather made Mayweather. 2. So far his plans for his fighters have gone nowhere. His plan to takeover boxing failed which wasted 3 yrs of his fighters careers and in the aftermath of this failure his fighters are still struggling to make fights, become known, (except for a very select few of his fighters)fight any top fighters that the public would be interested in. 3. Promises of huge wealth & fame have not happened.

The Charlo's are a perfect example of waiting too long fighting bums and not fighting top 10 talent. So what happened? 1 eventually lost setting him back 1 1/2 years possibly more. The other has been involved in some rather horrible, boring fights against c+ fighters which has also hurt and set his career back. Timing in boxing is very important and these guys have possibly missed their moment.

So far Porter has been the most successful. He has fought top talent and has made very good money and his name is out there more than most PBC fighters. LSC is next, but in the area of making money only. He has made a lot of money by never fighting the top talent in and around his weight class. However, his resume stinks. He has not fought anyone of note since his rematch with Frampton and even Frampton was not the best fighter in his weight class at the time. As far as being well known outside of true boxing fans he is still an unknown fighter to the American public. Mexican fans do not really care for him because he never fights anyone of note.

[Curt Henning]

They believe the bull**** and hype that Haymon keeps telling them. 1. Haymon tells each of his fighters they will be the next Mayweather. 2 Follow his plan for their career and he will make them wealthy like Mayweather and famous like Mayweather.

The problem with Haymon's promises are he did not make Mayweather, Mayweather made Mayweather. 2. So far his plans for his fighters have gone nowhere. His plan to takeover boxing failed which wasted 3 yrs of his fighters careers and in the aftermath of this failure his fighters are still struggling to make fights, become known, (except for a very select few of his fighters)fight any top fighters that the public would be interested in. 3. Promises of huge wealth fame have not happened.

The Charlo's are a perfect example of waiting too long fighting bums and not fighting top 10 talent. So what happened? 1 eventually lost setting him back 1 1/2 years possibly more. The other has been involved in some rather horrible, boring fights against c+ fighters which has also hurt and set his career back. Timing in boxing is very important and these guys have possibly missed their moment.

So far Porter has been the most successful. He has fought top talent and has made very good money and his name is out there more than most PBC fighters. LSC is next, but in the area of making money only. He has made a lot of money by never fighting the top talent in and around his weight class. However, his resume stinks. He has not fought anyone of note since his rematch with Frampton and even Frampton was not the best fighter in his weight class at the time. As far as being well known outside of true boxing fans he is still an unknown fighter to the American public. Mexican fans do not really care for him because he never fights anyone of note.

after Ortiz 2 wilder will have made 30 mil for his last 3 fights.....

can you name me another active, US, fighter that has made 30 mil in their career....my bet/guess is you cant because there isn't one......

and wilder still has his biggest paydays ahead of him

[SchoolTheseCats]

He could've been the one to KO Joshua, make $120 million doing so, shoot his fame into the stratosphere and be the face of boxing, become as big as Tyson.

All of it gone.

How was that a smart move?

How could he had been the one to beat Joshua when they both had to take interim fights before facing each other? Wilder beat breazeale and aj lost to Ruiz in his stateside debut that had to happen