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  • RoyJonesJrp4pno1
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    #31
    Fighters and or athletes that either refuse to give a sample, or are not where they said where they would be are taking Ped's imo.

    Chavez Jr should have been suspended for not taking a test. No doubt he had juice in his system at that time.

    Any roiders can either refuse to give samples, or just be in a different location and there are no repercussions.

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      #32
      Ok it's a few years old but it's looking like Nevadas enhanced testing is a thing and it's been around for a few years but it's mainly used for ufc. They're selective about it, so they test certain dudes not others decided per committee. I'd imagine that since most major fight contracts now have testing stipulations they'd mainly opt to do it only where they felt there was a significant risk of violations occuring outside the contracted testing window.

      Honestly can't say I think they're crazy for thinking Jr could be a violation risk. Probably wanted to test Danny too cos you're gonna get accused of favouritism if you only tested one fighter in the bout.

      The program is a major improvement from the traditional fight-night tests the NSAC relies on, as it calls for random blood tests during an athlete's camp. Different fight-night urine tests screen for steroids, diuretics and drugs of abuse and cost as little as $145, but are routinely criticized as being easy to cheat.

      The reason a four-week program can cost up to $45,000, according to Aguilar, is the cost of collection. The NSAC uses a World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) certified collector based in Salt Lake City, Utah. The same collector is used for every sample.

      "The expensive part is the collection," Aguilar said. "The lab is about $12,000 to do the analysis and collections, but you have to remain consistent in who the collector is and how they collect a sample.
      UFC welterweights Robbie Lawler and Jake Ellenberger will be subject to an enhanced drug-testing program ahead of their non-title bout at UFC 173 on May 24 in Las Vegas.


      Given the cost - and it will only have gone up since this article was written - and the fairly high possibility of failure (ie a fighter not being where you thought they'd be since you ain't got a whereabouts agreement) it's not surprising they use it fairly sparingly outside of the UFC where the promotion covers the costs.

      The most relevant passages in the NAC rules run as follows:

      DRUG TESTING PROGRAM FOR UNARMED COMBATANTS; ANTI-DOPING VIOLATIONS

      NAC 467.570  Requirement to submit to drug test at any time upon request of Commission; requirements for approval of laboratory performing test. (NRS 467.030, 467.153)

      1.  At any time requested by the Commission or its representative, an unarmed combatant, whether in-competition or out-of-competition, shall submit to a drug test.

      2.  A test of any sample or specimen of an unarmed combatant may be performed by a laboratory approved by the Commission or a laboratory approved and accredited by the World Anti-Doping Agency.

      3.  To be approved by the Commission to test a sample or specimen of an unarmed combatant, a laboratory must implement the International Standard for Laboratories and the Decision Limits for the Confirmatory Quantification of Threshold Substances, which are adopted by reference pursuant to paragraphs (b) and (c) of subsection 1 of NAC 467.011.

      (Added to NAC by Athletic Comm’n by R062-16, eff. 9-9-2016)

      NAC 467.5705  Anti-doping violation: Refusal or failure to submit to drug test; disciplinary action; consequences for violation. (NRS 467.030, 467.153, 467.158)

      1.  An unarmed combatant who, without compelling justification, refuses or fails to submit to the collection of a sample or specimen upon the request of the Commission or its representative or who otherwise evades the collection of a sample or specimen commits an anti-doping violation and is subject to disciplinary action by the Commission.

      2.  Except as otherwise provided in NAC 467.574 to 467.578, inclusive, an unarmed combatant who violates any provision of this section:

      (a) Is ineligible to engage in unarmed combat in this State for a period of at least 12 months but not more than 24 months, as determined by the Commission.

      (b) Will be fined by the Commission in an amount equal to at least 20 percent but not more than 40 percent of his or her purse.

      (Added to NAC by Athletic Comm’n by R062-16, eff. 9-9-2016)


      Full NAC unarmed combat provisions for the terminally obsessive:




      Which you'd have to say means Chavez Jr ain't really got a leg to stand on, though Danny's situation ain't so clear cut. Does not being somewhere you never said you would be constitute refusing failing or evading his test? I'd like to hope not.
      Last edited by Citizen Koba; 11-13-2019, 03:27 PM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
        i would just like to see you keep up with that same energy when it comes to other fighters... i remember when canelo got popped. you and some of the other ped experts where ghost on here for a week!

        it's like yall were mad that canelo got caught. which was very strange. had that been manny, yall would been making threads, posting meme, etc.!!! that's all im saying.
        With Pacquiao you have someone who refused blood testing 2 weeks before fights & used the ******est excuse ever heard saying he was scared of needles & that he didn't want to be weakened by blood testing. Then when roid Marquez whom himself refused vada & demanded an alternative just like chavez jr did,kod pac suddenly pac supposedly changed his tune. But in reality since then pac has had several fights outside Western countries known for rampant roid use,& hes had several of those fights without any testing whatsoever or with the minimum testing possible. He then just like hulk Marquez suddenly at 40 looks like a killer again out of the blue vs Thurman where despite his claims apparently didn't have vada because vada would've tweeted it as they do every fight.

        Canelo was doing vada from a younger age than most fighters every fight,when chavez jr demanded non vada nelo said vada or no fight. Nelo then got popped within days of dining with clinton & where his meal was documented along with photos as they always do for ex presidents dinners. He ate steak at a restaurant that has been tested as serving clen meat like most of mexicos finest restaurants & the tests took weeks before he was notified he popped dirty for clen. He was found to have in his system the exact infinitesimal amount of clen that it would take Literally only 1 steak to pop for that amount,then within 3 days as expected when someone eats a single clen steak his body had already removed almost all traces(this was still while he was unaware about his tests). Then afterwards nsac demanded hair follicle test that would not only expose whatever clen he was taking but any drug for up to a yr.(which is why ***** shyte didn't do anything but go into hiding & didn't even once say hes innocent as if saying your innocent somehow adversely affects his case as his rétarded fanbase claims).



        The charlos in their 1st vada fight both went missing over an entire week & refused all contact by vada yet were not suspended despite it being in vadas rules they signed that it's an automatic fail from the vada program. Yet the corrupt wbc retroactively let them off(even though vada screwed nelo over when the amount of clen he had was allowed by WADA rules & vadas head dr. had fought to clear vargas who had way more clen than nelo) & the wbc will consider anyone else that ducks tests dirty. And the Charlos had the ******est weak ass excuse for ducking vada in a fight where malls opponent was banned for the test he did take & all he had was elevated testosterone. & Of course the biased keith idec & others on this pbc shill site still haven't so much as mentioned anything to do with this yet he went above & beyond in articles such as these to paint certain fighters as dirty & the orgs that let them off as corrupt. This site has a very clear bias & agenda of supporting fighters tied to cbs that owns this site.
        Last edited by kushking; 11-13-2019, 03:45 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by kushking
          With Pacquiao you have someone who refused blood testing 2 weeks before fights & used the ******est excuse ever heard saying he was scared of needles & that he didn't want to be weakened by blood testing. Then when roid Marquez whom himself refused vada & demanded an alternative just like chavez jr did,kod pac suddenly pac supposedly changed his tune. But in reality since then pac has had several fights outside Western countries known for rampant roid use,& hes had several of those fights without any testing whatsoever or with the minimum testing possible. He then just like hulk Marquez suddenly looks like a killer again out of the blue vs Thurman where despite his claims apparently didn't have vada because vada would've tweeted it as they do every fight.

          Canelo was doing vada from a younger age than most fighters every fight,when chavez jr demanded non vada nelo said vada or no fight. Nelo then got popped within days of dining with clinton & where his meal was documented along with photos as they always do for ex presidents dinners. He ate steak at a restaurant that has been tested as serving clen meat like most of mexicos finest restaurants & the tests took weeks before he was notified he popped dirty for clen. He was found to have in his system the exact infinitesimal amount of clen that it would take Literally only 1 steak to pop for that amount,then within 3 days as expected when someone eats a single clen steak his body had already removed almost all traces(this was still while he was unaware about his tests). Then afterwards nsac demanded hair follicle test that would not only expose whatever clen he was taking but any drug for up to a yr.(which is why ***** shyte didn't do anything but go into hiding & didn't even once say hes innocent as if saying your innocent somehow adversely affects his case as his rétarded fanbase claims).



          The charlos in their 1st vada fight both went missing over an entire week & refused all contact by vada yet were not suspended despite it being in vadas rules they signed that it's an automatic fail from the vada program. Yet the corrupt wbc retroactively let them off(even though vada screwed nelo over when the amount of clen he had was allowed by WADA rules & vadas head dr. had fought to clear vargas who had way more clen than nelo) & the wbc will consider anyone else that ducks tests dirty. And the Charlos had the ******est weak ass excuse for ducking vada in a fight where malls opponent was banned for the test he did take & all he had was elevated testosterone. & Of course the biased keith idec & others on this pbc shill site still have so much as mentioned anything to do with this yet he went above & beyond in articles such as these to paint certain fighters as dirty & the orgs that let them off as corupt. This site has a very clear bias & agenda of supporting fighters tied to cbs that owns this site.
          he didnt refuse testing, he asked for a cut off... and you're a prime example of what i am talking about... so manny asked for a cut off = him being dirty.

          canelo actually got popped! but yeah it's just the meat in mexico. see this is the problem on here.

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            #35
            Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
            he didnt refuse testing, he asked for a cut off... and you're a prime example of what i am talking about... so manny asked for a cut off = him being dirty.

            canelo actually got popped! but yeah it's just the meat in mexico. see this is the problem on here.
            He got popped for what & under what circumstances? Do you realize that theres thousands of things considered completely benign with no ped benefit whatsoever & a fighter is still called a cheat even though it makes zero sense? Did you know that theres hundreds of different types of roids that range from vitamin D to birth control pills to inhalers,to actual roids as ppl think of them?

            Do you think its fair that a fighter is banned from even dining with president clinton & is never allowed to dine out because a weak ass "drug" that even fifa found to have no athletic benefits is in most the food in Mexico? Especially when wada already has set thresholds for this reason & vada just disregarded those same standards the head dr from vada fought to establish to protect clean fighters? You don't even see how hypocritical it is to act as if the fighter who actually demands vada every fight is a cheat because of having the amount of useless clen from 1 steak in his system, yet other fighters are allowed to fight without any testing whatsoever or refuse the best testing despite claiming to have changed his tune when hulk roidez kod him? Its also a disgrace that the Charlos didn't have to submit to a hair test either & neither did ***** Shyte.

            I consider it much more su****ious for fighters who duck vada than a fighter to get popped for something so ****** like clen that million's of ppl eat daily in mexico.

            You are actually adding to the problem by considering a fighter dirty whos popped for non fail test amount of a food product yet excuse a fighter who refuses the tests altogether that would actually catch them. You aren't making any sense,its easy to not fail when you don't test,& thats so rediculous"he requested a cutoff"(like cheats do,& since then pac has claimed he no longer cares about a cutoff yet still doesn't test as everyone else has to despite going missing large amounts of time)
            Last edited by kushking; 11-13-2019, 04:03 PM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
              He went from Charlo to now it's VADA & Haymon.

              You said nothing
              I did read his response wrong tbf.

              Still responded in the other thread. You said nothing.

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                #37
                Did Jacobs miss a test? Maybe they sent someone to where he was to test him?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                  But but but Charlo doe

                  Young Bidness

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                  So Jacobs is no longer "your people"? As soon as he signed with Hearn he became white?

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                  • Citizen Koba
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    Did Jacobs miss a test? Maybe they sent someone to where he was to test him?
                    What Hearn's saying is that VADA sent someone to test Danny in Atlanta where they thought he was, but he was actually in New York at the time . Since he wasn't under any contracted testing regime he hadn't been required to sign any whereabouts agreement and so can't be held culpable for not being where they thought he was. At least, that's my understanding of the situation based on the information we have.

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                    • xhiddenx87
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                      #40
                      Jacobs is half mexican, hecan go with the contaminated meat excuse is already a built in one.

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