Daniel Jacobs also missed a VADA drug test for this fight

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  • lolpz
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    #21
    Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
    open your eyes vato. this is still an on going thing when it comes to the pacman
    But why bring up the cut-off? Cut off is not random blood testing. Manny has now done random blood testing and bringing that up just makes him look bad if anything.

    Plenty of other fighters get more unnecessary flack for this then Pac does nowadays. Guys like Errol Spence who gets tested every fight for example.

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    • Motorcity Cobra
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      #22
      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
      But how can he even be accused of missing a test which he was never required to give a whereaboouts notification for? Whole situation is just straight odd.
      Or maybe Hearn is lying again?

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        #23
        Originally posted by lolpz
        But why bring up the cut-off? Cut off is not random blood testing. Manny has now done random blood testing and bringing that up just makes him look bad if anything.

        Plenty of other fighters get more unnecessary flack for this then Pac does nowadays. Guys like Errol Spence who gets tested every fight for example.
        did you miss the point of my post???!!!

        i am saying that manny got accused and still gets accused til this day for being dirty just because he asked for a cut off.

        while there is guys that actually tested positive and missed their drug testing, yet these guys are not getting accused of being dirty as much as manny is.

        not sure what your comment is about????

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #24
          Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
          did you miss the point of my post???!!!

          i am saying that manny got accused and still gets accused til this day for being dirty just because he asked for a cut off.

          while there is guys that actually tested positive and missed their drug testing, yet these guys are not getting accused of being dirty as much as manny is.

          not sure what your comment is about????
          I think it has more to do with the fact that no one could understand why Manny, who was promoted as a person with high integrity, would refuse PED testing. But you are correct that missing a tests doesn't get fighters as much scrutiny as Manny.

          The problem with your argument is Manny has also had 2 fights without any VADA testing whatsoever and you have maintained he was clean. If you can argue he is clean with no VADA testing, its hard to get upset about a missed test.

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            #25
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            I think it has more to do with the fact that no one could understand why Manny, who was promoted as a person with high integrity, would refuse PED testing. But you are correct that missing a tests doesn't get fighters as much scrutiny as Manny.

            The problem with your argument is Manny has also had 2 fights without any VADA testing whatsoever and you have maintained he was clean. If you can argue he is clean with no VADA testing, its hard to get upset about a missed test.
            he never refuse ped testing, this is where you're wrong. he counter floyd's request by asking for a cut off (i dont see anything wrong with this, it's called a negotiation).

            he'll still get tested randomly up until the cut off. so if the cut off is 10 days from the fight, manny will be tested randomly up until that time frame.

            i mean, unless you're trying to imply that manny will use that time frame to juice up? 9even tho he agreed to have his blood drawn right after the fight)

            a guy who has been accused of being dirty for 10+ years, yet until this day, there is ZERO proof of him testing positive. even after leaving arum (which most posters claim the moment he does this is when all the dirty secret will come out)...

            until this day, there is NO proof what so ever. yet he still gets accused of being dirty. posters still find ways to try and paint a bad image of him just like what you're doing here.

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              #26
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              I think it has more to do with the fact that no one could understand why Manny, who was promoted as a person with high integrity, would refuse PED testing. But you are correct that missing a tests doesn't get fighters as much scrutiny as Manny.

              The problem with your argument is Manny has also had 2 fights without any VADA testing whatsoever and you have maintained he was clean. If you can argue he is clean with no VADA testing, its hard to get upset about a missed test.
              i think he might have more fights without VADA testing. one in which he got ko'd. so explain that.

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                #27
                mofos missed their ped testing and some even got caught red handed... yet nothing.

                manny asks for a cut off and he gets accused of being dirty.

                something is not right here......

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                • Citizen Koba
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                  Or maybe Hearn is lying again?
                  Possibly, man, you can never trust a boxing promoter, but it kinda ties in... reports suggest that Jr was correct in asserting that he hadn't signed for testing, in which case he also wouldn't have signed a whereabouts notification agreement. If Danny also hadn't signed one then how can he be at fault for not being where VADA thought he was going to be?

                  According to ESPN this is a test that was ordered specifically by NSAC outside of the usual fight testing or CPB, yet not under regular VADA protocols that require fighters fill in a whereabouts form.
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                  the Nevada commission has the right to activate its enhanced drug-testing protocol, which it did, with VADA handling the collection.
                  After declining to submit to a random drug test last week, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. has been temporarily suspended by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, jeopardizing his proposed super middleweight bout with Daniel Jacobs on Dec. 20.




                  Don't get me wrong. I'm all for springing tests on these dudes all year round, but not being present when you've not said you'll be can't be really a punishable offense.

                  Or are you asserting that Hearn is lying about VADA turning up in Atlanta to test Jacobs altogether? In which case you might wanna think about re-titling the thread


                  EDIT: Guess Ima go investigate this NSAC 'enhanced drug testing protocol' a bit, see if I can't get to the bottom of this.
                  Last edited by Citizen Koba; 11-13-2019, 02:42 PM.

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                    #29
                    Charlos were supposed to make VADA aware of where they were but instead avoided them for days. not the same as Jacobs not matter how you spin it

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      I think it has more to do with the fact that no one could understand why Manny, who was promoted as a person with high integrity, would refuse PED testing. But you are correct that missing a tests doesn't get fighters as much scrutiny as Manny.

                      The problem with your argument is Manny has also had 2 fights without any VADA testing whatsoever and you have maintained he was clean. If you can argue he is clean with no VADA testing, its hard to get upset about a missed test.
                      i would just like to see you keep up with that same energy when it comes to other fighters... i remember when canelo got popped. you and some of the other ped experts where ghost on here for a week!

                      it's like yall were mad that canelo got caught. which was very strange. had that been manny, yall would been making threads, posting meme, etc.!!! that's all im saying.

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