Comments Thread For: Marquez: After Kovalev Win - I Still Have Canelo as #3 P4P!

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  • Elastic Recoil
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    #81
    Originally posted by Rcralas
    Doesn't p4p mean dominant in your weight class.... Canelo didn't fight the best champion at 154 (Lara, Charlo, Andrade) fought Lara at 155 and many believe that he lost. Did fight the Boogeyman at 160 which I do believe he lost the first. Hasn't fought no one competitive at 168 Chavez Jr dehydrated at 164 and Rocky (I don't think it matters for Chavez he would've lost) and Kovalev was rehydrated, over trained and not in the good side of 36
    Now let's look at Canelos great opponents; his resume:
    Mosley 39yrs (way past his prime)
    Trout 28 (prime)
    Mayweather 36yrs (good side of 36 not prime)
    Lara 31yrs (prime, controversial win)
    Cotto 35yrs (past his prime)
    Khan 28yrs(prime but moved up 2 divisions and glass jaw)
    Chavez Jr 32yrs (prime but weight drained)
    GGG1 35yrs (good side of 35 but not prime, controversial draw)
    GGG2 36yrs(good side of 36 not prime)
    Jacobs 33yrs (prime)
    Kovalev 36yrs (past his prime and rehydration clause)

    And whole career he's fought vs 3 prime fighters, in 7 Catch-weights fights (152, 155 & 164), 3 rehydration clause fights (Rocky, Jacobs & Kovalev) and was tested positive for clenbenterol

    Wow, salute sir! Gotta say this is the best post I've seen on this site - couldn't have said it better myself.

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    • Ca$ual Fan
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      #82
      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
      Lomachenko dominated Gary Russell Jr., who’s a top 15-20 p4p type fighter.

      He dominated Jorge Linares, who was a borderline top 10 p4p fighter at the time they fought.

      He dominated Guillermo Rigodeaux who was a borderline top 10 p4p fighter at the time they fought.
      Rigo wasn’t just a borderline top 10 p4p at that time. He was easily a top 5 p4p. He took Donaire’s place when he beat him. I believe Loma also took his place when he beat him.

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      • PoserExposer
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        #83
        One minute Mexicans praise Marquez and next they bash him for him acknowledging Canelo isn’t the best P4P fighter. Anytime you’ve failed a drug test, refused to fight mandatories, relinquished belts and set rehydration clauses, you aren’t daring to be great let alone the top P4P fighter.

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        • Shadoww702
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          #84
          Originally posted by PoserExposer
          One minute Mexicans praise Marquez and next they bash him for him acknowledging Canelo isn’t the best P4P fighter. Anytime you’ve failed a drug test, refused to fight mandatories, relinquished belts and set rehydration clauses, you aren’t daring to be great let alone the top P4P fighter.
          And you said GGG Knocks him out and He NEVER rematches ggg....

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          • Shadoww702
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            #85
            Originally posted by Hmabshir
            Marquez vs Loma at 135. Who you got? I got Marquez by vicious knockout
            Sht!!!! Salido and Linares gave him problems.

            Picture the Barrera that RETIRED the bully Hamed against Loma????

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            • Bandman
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              #86
              marquez smoking crack here. Canelo is #1 pound for pound and is already the GOAT mexican boxer. and i got pacquiao at #2.

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              • memphis mook
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                #87
                I must've missed what Marquez said that got everybody so pissy. I agree with his top three exactly

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                • sharkeyez
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                  #88
                  Berchelt owns Loma.
                  Berchelt is a top Lb4lb Just wait and see. Lb4lb fights the best and beats the best in all adjacent divisions period the end. Only a fighter of that caliber should and be able to claim that position. Nowadays,Lb4lb is so watered down, fighters like Canelo are allowed to move up the ladder by promoters paying for those fighters to move up the ranks.

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                  • BoxingIsGreat
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                    I need to see a fight between a 245lb Canelo and a 245lb Lomachenko before I can make mind up whether JMM is right.
                    Me too! Good post my brother. Green K!

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                    • Letmaku
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                      #90
                      Memo Boy Marquez is very jealous of Numero Uno cash cow in boxing today!?

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