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Comments Thread For: Marquez: After Kovalev Win - I Still Have Canelo as #3 P4P!
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And I have Marquez as the #1 P4P most jealous and envious hater! At least Canelo has many signature victories. Marquez only signature victory came on a lucky punch when he was on verge of being knocked out or stopped. That's why he ducked the 5th fight.
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Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View PostMarquez isn’t a hater. He had Canelo up against Kovalev and ranks him number three pound for pound.
The knock on Canelo is he isn’t dominant against top competition. Lomachenko is. Inoue is. Crawford has never been challenged.
Loma stuggled with Linares and the last couple of fights.
Inoue went 12 with Donaire FFS
Crawford fights bums.
Who's in their so called murders row that you speak of?
List ONE fighter that those have fought RECENTLY, that's better than Kovalev.
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Manny Pacquiao, Juan Diaz, Joel Casamayor and Marco Antonio Barrera are better wins than any win Canelo Alvarez has.
Originally posted by elmaravilla View PostAnd I have Marquez as the #1 P4P most jealous and envious hater! At least Canelo has many signature victories. Marquez only signature victory came on a lucky punch when he was on verge of being knocked out or stopped. That's why he ducked the 5th fight.
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Lomachenko dominated Gary Russell, Guillermo Rigodeaux and Jorge Linares. All three were borderline top 10 p4p fighters when they fought.
Inoue and Crawford have dominated everyone they fought.
Canelo is in 50-50 fights with every world champion he’s ever fought.
Originally posted by Death_Adder View PostExactly WHO is this top competition that Loma, Inoue and Crawford have faced?
Loma stuggled with Linares and the last couple of fights.
Inoue went 12 with Donaire FFS
Crawford fights bums.
Who's in their so called murders row that you speak of?
List ONE fighter that those have fought RECENTLY, that's better than Kovalev.
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Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View PostLomachenko dominated Gary Russell, Guillermo Rigodeaux and Jorge Linares. All three were borderline top 10 p4p fighters when they fought.
Inoue and Crawford have dominated everyone they fought.
Canelo is in 50-50 fights with every world champion he’s ever fought.
Loma struggled with Linares, almost lost at one point. Rigodauex was a midget, it's the equivalent of Canelo beating a 140lb guy, Russell who? lol. "Borderline P4P", not P4P, but borderline. LOL.
Again, idiot, Inoue just went 12 vs Donaire. Donaire, let that one sink in.
Canelo would be dominating too, if he had the level of competition Crawford had.
I'll ask again, name me ONE fighter that those three have fought recently that's better than Kovalev.
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Originally posted by theface07 View PostLook at all the crybabies who can't handle that a HOF boxer doesn't have their precious Canelo #1 P4P.
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Originally posted by Rcralas View PostDoesn't p4p mean dominant in your weight class.... Canelo didn't fight the best champion at 154 (Lara, Charlo, Andrade) fought Lara at 155 and many believe that he lost. Did fight the Boogeyman at 160 which I do believe he lost the first. Hasn't fought no one competitive at 168 Chavez Jr dehydrated at 164 and Rocky (I don't think it matters for Chavez he would've lost) and Kovalev was rehydrated, over trained and not in the good side of 36
Now let's look at Canelos great opponents; his resume:
Mosley 39yrs (way past his prime)
Trout 28 (prime)
Mayweather 36yrs (good side of 36 not prime)
Lara 31yrs (prime, controversial win)
Cotto 35yrs (past his prime)
Khan 28yrs(prime but moved up 2 divisions and glass jaw)
Chavez Jr 32yrs (prime but weight drained)
GGG1 35yrs (good side of 35 but not prime, controversial draw)
GGG2 36yrs(good side of 36 not prime)
Jacobs 33yrs (prime)
Kovalev 36yrs (past his prime and rehydration clause)
And whole career he's fought vs 3 prime fighters, in 7 Catch-weights fights (152, 155 & 164), 3 rehydration clause fights (Rocky, Jacobs & Kovalev) and was tested positive for clenbenterol
And Golovkin was regarded as the #1 P4P almost everyone. So please stop. And in both fights fought very tentative and not like the MONSTER who everyone said he was. And then within a YEARS time, beats Jacobs, moves up in weight to fight a top 10 guy who just happened to be the weakest one but still a champ. Then calls out Kovalev who was coming off a good win over Eledier Alvarez before the Yarde fight (offerd to pay Yarde a step aside fee. But for some reason everyone seems to forget about that detail). Moves up in 2 division and Ko’s Kovalev. Now what did Crawford and Lomachenko do in that year?
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