Comments Thread For: Wilder: If Opportunity Comes For Creed 3, I'm The Man For The Job

[Adamsc151]

You don't have to play that role though.

Who, me or Wilder? lol.
From what I've seen of him, I don't think Wilder can be any other way - he doesn't appear to be a man of hidden depths.
I may be more on a par with Michael B Jordan size-wise, but these days I'd not make a convincing pro boxer. If they're looking for a modern version of Rocky's brother-in-law Paulie, that may be more realistic.

[Scipio2009]

Who, me or Wilder? lol.
From what I've seen of him, I don't think Wilder can be any other way - he doesn't appear to be a man of hidden depths.
I may be more on a par with Michael B Jordan size-wise, but these days I'd not make a convincing pro boxer. If they're looking for a modern version of Rocky's brother-in-law Paulie, that may be more realistic.

The "son of a preacher", who grew up in the Deep South, until cultivating his gift of a right hand, and is a smiling "happy go lucky" guy untill it's time to fight or you threaten his family, is a hell of a composite to work from, and that has nothing to do with height/weight.

Adonis Creed could easily fall into a similar trap that Rocky did; run through a few successful title defenses, add a couple kids to his family, achieve security for them, and start looking towards the exit (fan wiki has Adonis being 32/33, which makes sense due to the late start and his middle management status after graduating school to start the series).

Creed is 34/35 years old, beating who he's beating, and a tall, long, big-punching monster from the South (who no one paid attention to until now) with a smile wants to fight. Creed dismisses him a couple times, and he's no longer smiling all that much; he wants to land on Creed's jaw, to put him in the ground right next to his pop's moseleum.

And we have a fight.

[Roberto Vasquez]

... They just used a legit 6'4 250lb guy in Creed 2, after using a 6'3 220lb guy for Creed.

6'7" is a lot to work into a screen, but let's not act like it's some impossibility

Wilder is a basketball player. He just isn't 'the look' they are looking for. For films you got to look the part.

[Scipio2009]

Wilder is a basketball player. He just isn't 'the look' they are looking for. For films you got to look the part.

Antonio Tarver starring opposite in Rocky Balboa says different.

Listed as 6'2 and a gimmicked 220lbs, Tarver had nowhere near the musculature that Wilder has, and they called him the long-reigning undisputed heavyweight champion of the world for his movie, without batting an eye.


It's not the 80's anymore.

[REDEEMER]

Antonio Tarver starring opposite in Rocky Balboa says different.

Listed as 6'2 and a gimmicked 220lbs, Tarver had nowhere near the musculature that Wilder has, and they called him the long-reigning undisputed heavyweight champion of the world for his movie, without batting an eye.


It's not the 80's anymore.

Fury was offered the part in Stallones new movie not Wilder.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Antonio Tarver starring opposite in Rocky Balboa says different.

Listed as 6'2 and a gimmicked 220lbs, Tarver had nowhere near the musculature that Wilder has, and they called him the long-reigning undisputed heavyweight champion of the world for his movie, without batting an eye.


It's not the 80's anymore.

But Tarver was no Ivan Drago or Clubber Lang in that film. I can't remember the plot now but wasn't he fighting a 60 year old Sylvester Stallone? They probably needed to make it look a bit realistic at least

I think the point is - all the best Rocky 'villians' and boxers (e.g Apollo) weren't boxers. They were actors. Using a real boxer is pointless in my opinion because boxers can't act and it's not real boxing so they don't need to know how to box.

Wilder could def get an extra role in the film. No doubt about that.

[Scipio2009]

But Tarver was no Ivan Drago or Clubber Lang in that film. I can't remember the plot now but wasn't he fighting a 60 year old Sylvester Stallone? They probably needed to make it look a bit realistic at least

I think the point is - all the best Rocky 'villians' and boxers (e.g Apollo) weren't boxers. They were actors. Using a real boxer is pointless in my opinion because boxers can't act and it's not real boxing so they don't need to know how to box.

Wilder could def get an extra role in the film. No doubt about that.

Antonio Tarver was the long-reigning undisputed heavyweight champion (I think it was 7 years) who was so much better than everyone else that folks got painfully bored with him.

6'2, maybe 200lbs for real.

The story is almost never about the actor opposite Stallone; it was about Rocky.

Creed 2 was interesting, in the sense that it was a redemption story for Creed and Drago, so both actors needed to be able to act, but Creed 3 is still going to be about "Hollywood" Adonis Creed (Johnson).

Whether it's how Creed keeps his hunger with Rocky stepping firmly into the background and success in the ring, or what he does as an older fighter with a family and riches already in hand, or the pitfals of life that could come upon you when you've achieved everything you wanted to achieve, the opponent in the movie won't have to carry much of the weight.

That reality gives you pretty wide freedom to construct your "villain".