Clenbuterol has been found by multiple sports to be in majority of mexican meat & found to be completely irrelevant for athletes unless they specifically take large doses over long periods of time for minimal gain.
,vada independently 1st chose to screw over Canelo despite other fighters being popped with much larger doses & deemed innocent. Wada had already always agreed that clen in amounts nelo had should be deemed a clean test,but vada only for Canelo screwed him despite him also passing a hair follicle test that would also show other more powerful drugs for a very long time.
And the wbc isn't the ones who made vada decide a few months back that they were going to no longer deem contaminant amounts of clen as a positive test which was what they were supposed to have done all along as wada code dictates. Clen is a joke"drug" I have personally eaten tons of mexican beef & never noticed anything resembling a drug.
I have stood up for clen fighters since way before nelo,I find it a travesty that clean fighters doing vada shouldn't be allowed to eat at fancy restaurants in mexico whom fifa found to contain clen.(Nelo was dining with bill clinton ffs & got popped)
Man if you're using Bill Clinton as a defense you gotta be desperate... hell difference would that make anyway? Did Bill swear under oath that Canelo was innocent or something? Would anyone still believe him if he had?
Problem is you just can't tell whether someone's been doping or eaten contaminated meat from a piss test, no matter which former head of state you shared a table with or how impassioned your belief in the right of Mexicans to eat what the hell they please.
Oh yeah. And this 'joke' drug is actually used by thousands globally for weight loss and lean muscle gain, hell, why the fuck do you think they bother to put in the damn cows - illegally I might add - despite the health risks? If you're so sure it does nothing then perhaps you should be spending your energy trying to lobby for WADA and the WBC to take it off the banned list altogether, rather than just leaving a massive loophole for potential abuse in certain countries. At least that way fighters from other parts of the globe could at least get a level playing field.
I ain't saying any of these dudes are guilty but you got no way of knowing they weren't using Clen as a PED either.
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Man if you're using Bill Clinton as a defense you gotta be desperate... hell difference would that make anyway? Did Bill swear under oath that Canelo was innocent or something? Would anyone still believe him if he had?
Problem is you just can't tell whether someone's been doping or eaten contaminated meat from a piss test, no matter which former head of state you shared a table with or how impassioned your belief in the right of Mexicans to eat what the hell they please.
Oh yeah. And this 'joke' drug is actually used by thousands globally for weight loss and lean muscle gain, hell, why the fuck do you think they bother to put in the damn cows - illegally I might add - despite the health risks? If you're so sure it does nothing then perhaps you should be spending your energy trying to lobby for WADA and the WBC to take it off the banned list altogether, rather than just leaving a massive loophole for potential abuse in certain countries. At least that way fighters from other parts of the globe could at least get a level playing field.
I ain't saying any of these dudes are guilty but you got no way of knowing they weren't using Clen as a PED either.
Did you read the link I posted above that shows someone merely has to eat a single steak to pop dirty for clen? When fifa tested all the hotels/restaurants in mexico they concluded clen was in the meat of most of them. Canelo dined with the president at sonora grill & the date & pictures as well as witnesses backed up that he ate a plate of steak.(luckily for him everything gets documented when dining with clinton)
That was right before the clen test where he took the tests & wasn't aware he popped dirty because tests take several weeks, in the meantime he was again tested a few days later while still unaware he was dirty,by then just as expected when someone eats clen meat it was already an almost undetectable amount. He then submitted to a follicle test that contrary to whats been reported takes into account hair color to provide such an accurate test its used in murder trials & is considered foolproof.
The bs being reported about hair color affecting the test makes no sense because thats been solved ages ago.
Did you read the link I posted above that shows someone merely has to eat a single steak to pop dirty for clen? When fifa tested all the hotels/restaurants in mexico they concluded clen was in the meat of most of them. Canelo dined with the president at sonora grill & the date & pictures as well as witnesses backed up that he ate a plate of steak.(luckily for him everything gets documented when dining with clinton)
That was right before the clen test where he took the tests & wasn't aware he popped dirty because tests take several weeks, in the meantime he was again tested a few days later while still unaware he was dirty,by then just as expected when someone eats clen meat it was already an almost undetectable amount. He then submitted to a follicle test that contrary to whats been reported takes into account hair color to provide such an accurate test its used in murder trials & is considered foolproof.
The bs being reported about hair color affecting the test makes no sense because thats been solved ages ago.
How are you going to refer to something as "blatant" when you know precisely zero facts about the case?
No credibility thread.
Ok when a fighter is clean but pops dirty he will immediately go on record protesting his test results & saying hes innocent. Hearn/Whyte have made it clear they are completely unashamed to be considered, lying hypocrite cheats. Neither Hearn/Whyte have once come out publicly saying flat out they are clean. They have done the same exact thing trump has done with his scandals which shows how guilty they are. Dbol is a straight up roid that is impossible for Whyte to have accidentally consumed especially in the uk where only the most minute percentage of meat even contains clen but in tiny doses much less dbol a straight up ultra powerful roid that can be micro dosed & still be very effective & which is easy to get still unlike other roids that are very hard to come by in the uk ever since wiggins scandal
Wow, very interesting stuff. You've done quite a bit of research on this.
Yes I'm someone who's always been interested in these sorts of cases where I feel an Injustice has occurred. In the beginning of this clen saga I couldn't believe nelo would cheat because he had been a pioneer of vada in boxing who could've cheated when chavez jr demanded non vada but nelo demanded vada(as chavez jrs doing vs Jacobs again now) but I told myself surely if he was popped dirty then it must mean he used a ped amount of clen which means hes a blatant cheat as was being lazily reported.
It wasn't until a while after that I started researching the specifics of his case that I realized that he genuinely got screwed over for trying to do the right thing & demanding the supposed best testing every fight. When I actually started researching these things & prior athletes like contador I realized it's a travesty to tell someone that they are not banned from eating mex meat,but they still absolutely cannot dine out under any circumstances (even at a nice restaurant with Clinton) without fear of destroying their careers,all because they are testing & happen to live in mexico.
I could'nt imagine being in such a situation that even the finest restaurants are off limits even if the president invites you to dinner; Even if you have the best chefs that'd get old to not be able to dine out.
Clenbuterol has been found by multiple sports to be in majority of mexican meat & found to be completely irrelevant for athletes unless they specifically take large doses over long periods of time for minimal gain.
,vada independently 1st chose to screw over Canelo despite other fighters being popped with much larger doses & deemed innocent. Wada had already always agreed that clen in amounts nelo had should be deemed a clean test,but vada only for Canelo screwed him despite him also passing a hair follicle test that would also show other more powerful drugs for a very long time.
And the wbc isn't the ones who made vada decide a few months back that they were going to no longer deem contaminant amounts of clen as a positive test which was what they were supposed to have done all along as wada code dictates. Clen is a joke"drug" I have personally eaten tons of mexican beef & never noticed anything resembling a drug.
I have stood up for clen fighters since way before nelo,I find it a travesty that clean fighters doing vada shouldn't be allowed to eat at fancy restaurants in mexico whom fifa found to contain clen.(Nelo was dining with bill clinton ffs & got popped)
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