This is why boxing should stop "brewing" fights

[sicko]

UFC fighters have one promoter, who keeps most of the money. You got main event fighters beating the crap out of eachother for $500k a piece, with Reebok giving them $20k each. For a total whopping $520k. This is a main event with millions of fans subbed to ESPN+ for them, you got $6million in gate revenue. And the main event fighters take $520k each.

That's just sad.

I mean $500k is not nothing. I'd fight for $500k for one night too. Pay my student loans and car with one night of work. But you have main event fighters in boxing taking $30mill, $20mil, $10mill, $5mill a night. You see why these UFC fighters want to jump over to boxing to make 100x more than what they make at UFC. Canelo vs Masvidal would make Masvidal a quick multi millionaire, money that can make him retire from fighting. UFC fighters saw what McGregor did and now they want a piece of that.

...and that is exactly why they do the Marination Process for these fights because it is potentially a lot of money involved

Marination is the get the Casual Sports Fan attention, Marination is to a build up a fight to the point in which Investors will come and put up big money to make it happen like I don't know...Saudi Arabia for Ruiz vs Joshua II

Too much money into boxing to be made! This is why the Powers that Be in Boxing really don't let many people in it and they won't welcome Dana White and other outsiders in with Open Arms.

So considering what Canelo Alvarez, AJ and other Boxers make per fight, the Powers that be in the sport of boxing knows WTF they're doing even when it comes to "Marination"

[Toffee]

WTF do we know?

What do boxing fans know about what fans want to pay for?

The fight will always be bigger if we wait, right?

How much bigger is Joshua v Ruiz 2 after a loss? How much bigger will Wilder v Fury 2 be after a draw?

People are still talking about Mayweather v Pacquiao 2 when one has been retired for ages!

Get out there and fight. The bigger fights are still there afterwards - revenge or resolution sells.

[sicko]

What do boxing fans know about what fans want to pay for?

The fight will always be bigger if we wait, right?

How much bigger is Joshua v Ruiz 2 after a loss? How much bigger will Wilder v Fury 2 be after a draw?

People are still talking about Mayweather v Pacquiao 2 when one has been retired for ages!

Get out there and fight. The bigger fights are still there afterwards - revenge or resolution sells.

As far as the Business Side Of Boxing...
We know SH#T! If Mayweather vs Pacquiao happened when we wanted it to, it doesn't generate as much as it did and it is not as big as it was despite the fight being lackluster

I'm not a fan of "Marination" but I understand it and one thing I do know is that all the B#tching about it on this Forum is not going to change any of it. One thing is for certain and Boxing Promoters know this, is that the Hardcore Boxing Fan is not going away and is not going to all of a sudden stop watch. They already have us locked it! Marination is to try and spark interest from the Casual Sport Fan

[YoungManRumble]

As far as the Business Side Of Boxing...
We know SH#T! If Mayweather vs Pacquiao happened when we wanted it to, it doesn't generate as much as it did and it is not as big as it was despite the fight being lackluster

I'm not a fan of "Marination" but I understand it and one thing I do know is that all the B#tching about it on this Forum is not going to change any of it. One thing is for certain and Boxing Promoters know this, is that the Hardcore Boxing Fan is not going away and is not going to all of a sudden stop watch. They already have us locked it! Marination is to try and spark interest from the Casual Sport Fan

What I don't get is why people care how much money anyone is making since it doesn't affect them... Seeing people not fight each other in their prime affects us all negatively. We wanna see the best fight the best at their best. Who cares what they're taking home when we are getting 0% of the pie. Infact -% if you're paying for PPV or streaming subscriptions.

What lasting positive effects do these over-marianted, over-brewed, over-aged super fights have on boxing as a whole? Infinite barbershop style arguments about what would have happened if they fought in their primes etc.

It's not a piece of meat, it's not a fine wine or whiskey. It's a fight.

[sicko]

What I don't get is why people care how much money anyone is making since it doesn't affect them... Seeing people not fight each other in their prime affects us all negatively. We wanna see the best fight the best at their best. Who cares what they're taking home when we are getting 0% of the pie. Infact -% if you're paying for PPV or streaming subscriptions.

What lasting positive effects do these over-marianted, over-brewed, over-aged super fights have on boxing as a whole? Infinite barbershop style arguments about what would have happened if they fought in their primes etc.

It's not a piece of meat, it's not a fine wine or whiskey. It's a fight.

Because without Money...NOT Fights get made! Sorry to break it to you but NOBODY in this sport is just fighting for the love of the sport. These Men are expecting to get paid very well every time they step in the ring.

You know what speeds up these big fights to happen faster? MORE MONEY!

[YoungManRumble]

Because without Money...NOT Fights get made! Sorry to break it to you but NOBODY in this sport is just fighting for the love of the sport. These Men are expecting to get paid very well every time they step in the ring.

You know what speeds up these big fights to happen faster? MORE MONEY!

Well it's not like no one is getting paid. They will still get paid handsomely and be rich without trying to milk as much money as humanly possible out of everything. It's just pure greed at that point. Not saying they need to fight for whatever is offered but it's unlikely any other fights are gonna make over $500 mil or whatever no matter how long they try and hype them up. Which is usually the end goal they are trying to emulate.

[Toffee]

As far as the Business Side Of Boxing...
We know SH#T! If Mayweather vs Pacquiao happened when we wanted it to, it doesn't generate as much as it did and it is not as big as it was despite the fight being lackluster

I'm not a fan of "Marination" but I understand it and one thing I do know is that all the B#tching about it on this Forum is not going to change any of it. One thing is for certain and Boxing Promoters know this, is that the Hardcore Boxing Fan is not going away and is not going to all of a sudden stop watch. They already have us locked it! Marination is to try and spark interest from the Casual Sport Fan

If Mayweather v Pacquiao happened when we wanted it to, it probably would have done huge numbers, followed by dispute over the result and even bigger numbers for the rematch.

Look at Wilder... for all of the supposed genius in his promotion, the biggest peaks in interest for him have been big fights and talk of rematches. Who in the US cared about Wilder v Fury 1? You reckon more will watch the rematch? Fighting is better than marinating.

Every US fan told us no-one was interested in Joshua v Ruiz - now i the rematch is the biggest fight of year!

Marination may well make the fight bigger. But you could have the fight now and make the next fight even bigger! And you're earning big money while building the next fight.

Wilder has left millions on the table to marinate a fight against Joshua. Why? Joshua is proving that even a convincing loss makes the rematch huge.

[Marchegiano]

Reckon we ought to take a stand against promoter-broadcaster-fighter multi-fight contracts.

We all know the drill, W just got sign to X and will be featured on Y for a Z fight deal.

If a dude gets picked up by a promoter and given a distributor for five fights the first 4 are gonna be **** sandwiches while the last one is okay.

build, build, build, then a ****in' draw when two worth a ****s meet, or, someone loses before the fight ever happens.

Surely there's a better way.

[JJRod]

Marination is ruining the sport.
Too many people stop watching because the fights we want never get made. More and more will start to gravitate to UFC as they already do.

You guys are talking about the huge fights, but what about the little fights in between. How long have we been waiting on a round robin between Lara-Charlo-Andrade-and others in that 154/160 category. Hell you can throw in Jacobs into the mix. Instead they’re all holding on to belts waiting for a call from Canelo.

[Bullrider]

There's nothing certain in boxing.