Eubank Sr Interview Nov '19 admits ducking fighters!

[dannnnn]

And what I'm saying is, they're not equal.

Michael Watson was a brutal puncher whose goal was to get you out of there, upright or not.

Neither Toney or Jones has ever been aggressive punches. They're counter punchers.

Worst that could have happened is English getting frustrated for 12 rounds with a 1% connect rate.

They're not equal. Toney and Jones were both better than Watson. You think they would just tickle Eubank for twelve rounds? You sound like someone who has never set foot inside a ring.

And to make matters worse, Eubank was a natural counter puncher himself. He never looked good on the front foot. I think he knew better than anybody that both Toney and Jones would have been nightmare styles for him. Why do you think the guy he really wanted to fight was Duran?

[coghaugen]

Watson in that second Eubank fight looked unbeatable to me. He threw 4-5 punch combos to body and head one after the other after changing angle inside, constantly closing the distance without hesitation and withstood some huge shots and combos without even blinking - Watson was more possessed that night than Benn was against McClellan, and out-muscled Eubank inside that not even Carl Thompson could do. Only Castillo in the first Mayweather fight kept up that kind of pace with accuracy. Against McCallum, he just led with a jab or cross that would fall short due to ring rust, albeit he led off a lot it wasn't anything like the fighter who fought Eubank in that rematch

[Combat Talk Radio]

They're not equal. Toney and Jones were both better than Watson. You think they would just tickle Eubank for twelve rounds? You sound like someone who has never set foot inside a ring.

You're crazy. First of all, Roy Jones had a GLASS jaw. James Toney was only talented when the guy across from him couldn't time him, like John Ruiz.

Michael Watson AND Gerald McCllelan would have given both Toney and Jones hell even in loss. We know this by measuring both guys' performance against Montell Griffin who had a very similar adaptation, and fought them prime-for-prime.

[dannnnn]

You're crazy. First of all, Roy Jones had a GLASS jaw. James Toney was only talented when the guy across from him couldn't time him, like John Ruiz.

Michael Watson AND Gerald McCllelan would have given both Toney and Jones hell even in loss. We know this by measuring both guys' performance against Montell Griffin who had a very similar adaptation, and fought them prime-for-prime.

I'm the crazy one? Ok buddy. In your second paragraph you concede that Watson would have likely lost to both Toney and Jones, which is in agreement with what I said so I don't see what your point is there.

Jones did not have a glass jaw in his prime. He bulked up to fight Ruiz then lost all that weight and muscle and boom, the Tarver KO suddenly happened. Now let me tell you something about concussions. The more you have, the easier it becomes to have them subsequently. After the loss to Glen Johnson, then you could argue that Jones' chin was glass, because he was up there in age and had suffered two severe concussions. He was stretched out on the canvas for about ten minutes after the Johnson KO. It's no wonder he got knocked out a few more times after continuing to fight on. Chuck Liddell had an iron chin in his prime, then he suffered a couple of knockouts/concussions and all of a sudden he became Amir Khan. Coincidence?

And your opinion on Toney I'll just ignore because it's so foolish. He was only talented when his opponent couldn't time him? Go watch Toney vs. Jirov. Back in the mid-to-late 90s there is a video of Eubank and Benn sitting next to each and Toney on a video monitor talking to them. You could clearly tell that neither of them wanted a piece of Toney. Would they have fought him under the right conditions (money, etc.)? Of course. But it wasn't a fight they wanted and neither was Jones. As I said, Eubank wanted Duran because he was a come forward fighter and naturally smaller.

[coghaugen]

Eubank did want Duran, after the Benn win, and said he didn't want Nunn until his last fight! He wanted Duran, Watson, Collins in Boston and Julian Jackson and then McCallum and Nunn before retiring at 25. He didn't want to fight Benn again. Funny how things turn out.

[Combat Talk Radio]

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Thats nothing compared to the Dos Santos KO. Never seen anything so brutal before Wilder came along.

[coghaugen]

Thats nothing compared to the Dos Santos KO. Never seen anything so brutal before Wilder came along.

True. Point was the sneak short right as a counter to Jones flawed lead left hook

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

You're in the vast vast minority young man. Duran a few weights above his best weight and a few years past his peak, beat an unbeaten R Leonard at his best fair and square with no controversy before going off the rails for a bit

What he did against huge monsters Moore, Hagler and Barkley when he was naturally 135lb is beyond compare in boxing history. He wasn't even a big lightweight ffs

How was he not at his peak?? He was 29😂😂 and put in arguably the best performance of his career. FFS...🤣

Duran was proven welterweight he’d already faced and beaten guys like Palomino. He was more effective at 135 but never looked out of place at 147.

The rematch proved who the better fighter was. Duran has some incredible wins in SRL, Barkley, Moore, De Jesus x2. But are those wins better than Hearns, Hagler, Benitez Duran x2?

You’re certainly in the vast, vast minority suggesting Duran is the greatest.

“Beyond compare in boxing history”??? HELL NO.

Armstrong-Garcia

Robinson-Maxim

Sam Langford going for 147 to HW.

Billy Conn going from 135 to 175.

Pacquiao’s rise from 106 lbs to Light Middleweight.

I could go on...

Seems you need to learn your history kid...

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

They're not equal. Toney and Jones were both better than Watson. You think they would just tickle Eubank for twelve rounds? You sound like someone who has never set foot inside a ring.

And to make matters worse, Eubank was a natural counter puncher himself. He never looked good on the front foot. I think he knew better than anybody that both Toney and Jones would have been nightmare styles for him. Why do you think the guy he really wanted to fight was Duran?

Ask Mike McCallum who’s better out of Toney and Watson.

Watson doesn’t even belong in that same conversation tbh.

He was a talented fighter but never truly proved himself above domestic level if we’re being brutally honest.

[coghaugen]

How was he not at his peak?? He was 29😂😂 and put in arguably the best performance of his career. FFS...🤣

Duran was proven welterweight he’d already faced and beaten guys like Palomino. He was more effective at 135 but never looked out of place at 147.

The rematch proved who the better fighter was. Duran has some incredible wins in SRL, Barkley, Moore, De Jesus x2. But are those wins better than Hearns, Hagler, Benitez Duran x2?

You’re certainly in the vast, vast minority suggesting Duran is the greatest.

“Beyond compare in boxing history”??? HELL NO.

Armstrong-Garcia

Robinson-Maxim

Sam Langford going for 147 to HW.

Billy Conn going from 135 to 175.

Pacquiao’s rise from 106 lbs to Light Middleweight.

I could go on...

Seems you need to learn your history kid...

29 was an old man in boxing terms. Most fighters peaked in their mid-20s or younger