Eubank Sr Interview Nov '19 admits ducking fighters!

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #51
    Originally posted by coghaugen
    Wow. Duran was one of the best ever years before Leonard even thought of turning pro! You're in la-la land!

    Two weights above his weight, he beats a peak SRL convincingly.
    The first fight was extremely close have you even watched it???

    Then loses far more convincingly and quits in the rematch.

    I love Duran but SRL was the evidently the better fighter.

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    • coghaugen
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      #52
      You're in the vast vast minority young man. Duran a few weights above his best weight and a few years past his peak, beat an unbeaten R Leonard at his best fair and square with no controversy before going off the rails for a bit

      What he did against huge monsters Moore, Hagler and Barkley when he was naturally 135lb is beyond compare in boxing history. He wasn't even a big lightweight ffs

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        #53
        I say R Leonard because he's not even the best Leonard there's ever been (that was Benny)

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          #54
          Originally posted by revelated
          "I didn't want another Watson II, which a Toney or Roy Jones fight would've been. "

          Uh...English. Come on. You're not suggesting you would have crippled those guys. And they wouldn't have crippled you.
          You're misinterpreting what he said. He wasn't suggesting he would permanently damage Toney or Jones, he's paying them a compliment by saying he didn't want a fight so tough (as Watson II) at that particular time.

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            #55
            Originally posted by dannnnn
            You're misinterpreting what he said. He wasn't suggesting he would permanently damage Toney or Jones, he's paying them a compliment by saying he didn't want a fight so tough (as Watson II) at that particular time.
            Knowing Sr he probably is saying that though (crippling eachother)!

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              #56
              Originally posted by dannnnn
              You're misinterpreting what he said. He wasn't suggesting he would permanently damage Toney or Jones, he's paying them a compliment by saying he didn't want a fight so tough (as Watson II) at that particular time.
              And what I'm saying is, they're not equal.

              Michael Watson was a brutal puncher whose goal was to get you out of there, upright or not.

              Neither Toney or Jones has ever been aggressive punches. They're counter punchers.

              Worst that could have happened is English getting frustrated for 12 rounds with a 1% connect rate.

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                #57
                Originally posted by revelated
                And what I'm saying is, they're not equal.

                Michael Watson was a brutal puncher whose goal was to get you out of there, upright or not.

                Neither Toney or Jones has ever been aggressive punches. They're counter punchers.

                Worst that could have happened is English getting frustrated for 12 rounds with a 1% connect rate.
                Watson wasn't a brutal offensive puncher at all, he wore ear muffs and countered. Though that night he completely changed his style, as you had to against Eubank, and looked incredible.

                Toney was a bad mother****er who was happy to engage while talking trash, Jones let go 10-12 punch combos and leaping single shots that took guys off their feet. They were more than capable of going smoke for smoke, and may of had to against Eubank because you just couldn't let Eubank control the pace or he'd almost hypnotise you into fighting his fight and nick rounds
                Last edited by coghaugen; 11-25-2019, 10:39 PM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by coghaugen
                  Watson wasn't a brutal offensive puncher at all, he wore ear muffs and countered. Though that night he completely changed his style, as you had to against Eubank, and looked incredible.

                  Toney was a bad mother****er who was happy to engage while talking trash, Jones let go 10-12 punch combos and leaping single shots that took guys off their feet. They were more than capable of going smoke for smoke, and may of had to against Eubank because you just couldn't let Eubank control the pace or he'd almost hypnotise you into his fight and nick rounds
                  Watson only did counter when his opponent was a sucker for it. As Eubank was.

                  Toney was never high output. Jones at that time was but remember, shortly after we learned that the jaw was glass. One shot from Eubank and it would have been over. So he would have had to keep moving and defending.
                  Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 11-21-2019, 12:47 PM.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by revelated
                    Watson only did counter when his opponent was a sucker for it. As Eubank was.

                    Toney was never high output. Jones at that time was but remember, shortly after we learned that the jaw was glass. One shot from Eubank and it would have been over. So he would have had to keep moving and defending.
                    Well not quite because he led against Eubank at high pace after trying to counter the counter puncher didn't work first time around.

                    Toney had a high output for a counter puncher, see McCallum and Barkley fights. Very actually.

                    The Jones chin is a strange one. He got hit, hard, by Toney in their fight and just stared at him?

                    I do think that sneaky short counter overarm right of Eubank was the perfect punch in boxing to counter the Jones leaping lead hook

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                      #60


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