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  • kidbazooka
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    #31
    Gayweather faced a green weight drained canelo.

    Prime for prime canelo destroys that fairy and Floyd knows it too.

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    • Damn Wicked
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      #32
      The Canelo that we've seen over the last 4 or 5 years would beat Mayweather handily. Would likely KO him if the fight was above 155 lbs. Canelo was a fighter that was still in the growing stages of his career when they fought. Even a year after that fight Canelo had improved noticeably. Three or four years after that Canelo was MUCH better, much stronger, more explosive, more intelligent in the ring, better defensively....and shockingly his stamina improved a lot. Today's Canelo is not the kid who fought Mayweather...Timing is everything in this sport....Look how Kovalev and Canelo played out...Does anyone think that Canelo would have been KOing Kovalev 3 years ago? Would Canelo have even survived the 12 rounds against Kovalev 3 years ago.....I highly doubt it. Fighters change..., they grow, improve and eventually fade and decline.

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      • Damn Wicked
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        #33
        Originally posted by kidbazooka
        Gayweather faced a green weight drained canelo.

        Prime for prime canelo destroys that fairy and Floyd knows it too.
        I agree...and I'm not a big fan of Canelo.....although I have to admit, he's a great fighter.

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        • elfag
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          #34
          175 Canelo would finally have an opponent who is trying to beat him.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Damn Wicked
            The Canelo that we've seen over the last 4 or 5 years would beat Mayweather handily. Would likely KO him if the fight was above 155 lbs. Canelo was a fighter that was still in the growing stages of his career when they fought. Even a year after that fight Canelo had improved noticeably. Three or four years after that Canelo was MUCH better, much stronger, more explosive, more intelligent in the ring, better defensively....and shockingly his stamina improved a lot. Today's Canelo is not the kid who fought Mayweather...Timing is everything in this sport....Look how Kovalev and Canelo played out...Does anyone think that Canelo would have been KOing Kovalev 3 years ago? Would Canelo have even survived the 12 rounds against Kovalev 3 years ago.....I highly doubt it. Fighters change..., they grow, improve and eventually fade and decline.
            "kid"

            He was 23

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            • Sledgeweather17
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              #36
              Originally posted by kidbazooka
              Gayweather faced a green weight drained canelo.

              Prime for prime canelo destroys that fairy and Floyd knows it too.
              Some facts for you.

              1) Canelo has just defeated Trout for his world title, in prime Trout who had just white washed Miguel Cotto for the title. Lol, so green my azz.

              2) Canelo had more pro fights than Floyd when they fought. So again, Green my azz.

              3) Canelo had a 15lbs weight advantage when they entered the ring.

              4) Tell me was Canelo still Green when he lost to Lara? Was he green when he struggled with GGG and Jacobs?

              6) You need mental help for even insinuating that the cherry picker was anywhere near Floyd's level at any point. He got white washed by a 36 year old man, and that now 42 year old would white wash him again.

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              • Sledgeweather17
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                #37
                Originally posted by Mindgames
                Actually it was a simple question. Did he fight Oscar at the 154 limit or not. If he did, theres your 154 Floyd, whether he entered the ring lighter than that or not.
                The point still eludes your small mind.

                The point if, if Floyd can't even make a 152lbs catchweight on fight night, there is NO WAY he gonna be able to fight at 160.

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                • Mindgames
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                  The point still eludes your small mind.

                  The point if, if Floyd can't even make a 152lbs catchweight on fight night, there is NO WAY he gonna be able to fight at 160.
                  The point is Floyd beat a decent champion at 154 in Delahoya. It doesnt matter if he came in at 150,he still won the fight. Especially skilled champions can overcome weight with skill. Its been done all through boxing history. Floyd at the time of the Oscar fight outboxes any version of Canelo. Canelo cant hit him with anything to make the weight count. A tiny bit of strength conditioning, Floyd comes in at 156 and beats Canelo out of sight. Surely your super intellect can comprehend this?

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                  • Sledgeweather17
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Mindgames
                    The point is Floyd beat a decent champion at 154 in Delahoya. It doesnt matter if he came in at 150,he still won the fight. Especially skilled champions can overcome weight with skill. Its been done all through boxing history. Floyd at the time of the Oscar fight outboxes any version of Canelo. Canelo cant hit him with anything to make the weight count. A tiny bit of strength conditioning, Floyd comes in at 156 and beats Canelo out of sight. Surely your super intellect can comprehend this?
                    You some kind of idiot? How is he supposed to come in at 156 if he can't even come at 152?

                    Where is the extra weight going to come from?

                    Or do you think he intentionally tried to get a 15lbs weight disadvantage?

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                    • QueensburyRules
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by KING MEAT
                      who takes the W at lets say CW of 160 currently and how?
                      - -TUE 50-0 wouldn't take Martinez and then GGG offers to drop to 154.

                      Debutante Banty Tenshin is current TUE level now.

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