Canelo beats GGG easy 3rd time

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

that 3rd fight isnt even a intriguing fight at the moment, Canelo is another different league that GGG will never reach.

[Boxing_1013]

that 3rd fight isnt even a intriguing fight at the moment, Canelo is another different league that GGG will never reach.

GGG just needs the right PEDs

But seriously Nelo looks good, but a 3rd fight would still give some finality to the rivalry...many, myself included, feel GGG won both...so why not a 3rd one to try and provide some sort of conclusive winner...they made for 2 entertaining fights...the KO last night turned some heads (mainly Kov's) but action wise the 2 GGG fights were much better imo.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

GGG just needs the right PEDs

But seriously Nelo looks good, but a 3rd fight would still give some finality to the rivalry...many, myself included, feel GGG won both...so why not a 3rd one to try and provide some sort of conclusive winner...they made for 2 entertaining fights...the KO last night turned some heads (mainly Kov's) but action wise the 2 GGG fights were much better imo.

Its over with, no one believes GGG can compete with Canelo now, and GGG has dont nothing to disprove this notion.

Right now a 3rd fight is a charity case.

Also I doubt canelo comes back down to 160

[Boxing_1013]

Its over with, no one believes GGG can compete with Canelo now, and GGG has dont nothing to disprove this notion.

Right now a 3rd fight is a charity case.

Also I doubt canelo comes back down to 160

Yeah I don't think it necessarily needs to be at 160...GGG is probably getting paid by DAZN regardless, they are the ones who really want the 3rd fight...will be interesting to see what happens, and what they do with GGG if Canelo really doesn't want to do it a 3rd time.

I would favor Nelo, but as mentioned, I don't think Canelo would have done necessarily much better vs SD than GGG did, and vice versa with Nelo vs Kov...Nelo beat Jacobs 7-5 for example on my card, while I had GGG 8-4 with the KD (could see 7-5 there I suppose).

So yeah would favor Nelo in the 3rd fight but it may not be as straightforward as you think.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Yeah I don't think it necessarily needs to be at 160...GGG is probably getting paid by DAZN regardless, they are the ones who really want the 3rd fight...will be interesting to see what happens, and what they do with GGG if Canelo really doesn't want to do it a 3rd time.

I would favor Nelo, but as mentioned, I don't think Canelo would have done necessarily much better vs SD than GGG did, and vice versa with Nelo vs Kov...Nelo beat Jacobs 7-5 for example on my card, while I had GGG 8-4 with the KD (could see 7-5 there I suppose).

So yeah would favor Nelo in the 3rd fight but it may not be as straightforward as you think.

I think dazn cuts GGG once they realize that 3rd has 0 chance of happening, they only signed him for that 3rd fight, GGG didnt get that deal because of his self worth he got it because of his worth is attached to canelo, so if that 3rd dont happen I see them cutting him lose.

This is where we really differ cause I think Canelo will make easy work out of SD, SD is just a tenacious person that is open fro counter and Canelo counters are sharp where GGG counters are just there with alot of power.

Bottom line is this, the PERCEPTION OF the 3rd fight, NO ONE THINKS GGG CAN BEST CANELO, at GGG best all he was able to do is a draw, he has steady been declining and Canelo has been improving adding accolades to his resume meanwhile GGG has been fighting nothing but tune ups since canelo 1 and the first real fight he had other than canelo since canelo 1 he gets worked over bad. GGG has not done anything to make people believe he has a chance to beat Canelo.

[Boxing_1013]

I think dazn cuts GGG once they realize that 3rd has 0 chance of happening, they only signed him for that 3rd fight, GGG didnt get that deal because of his self worth he got it because of his worth is attached to canelo, so if that 3rd dont happen I see them cutting him lose.

This is where we really differ cause I think Canelo will make easy work out of SD, SD is just a tenacious person that is open fro counter and Canelo counters are sharp where GGG counters are just there with alot of power.

Bottom line is this, the PERCEPTION OF the 3rd fight, NO ONE THINKS GGG CAN BEST CANELO, at GGG best all he was able to do is a draw, he has steady been declining and Canelo has been improving adding accolades to his resume meanwhile GGG has been fighting nothing but tune ups since canelo 1 and the first real fight he had other than canelo since canelo 1 he gets worked over bad. GGG has not done anything to make people believe he has a chance to beat Canelo.

Idk man I would still give him a legit chance to beat Nelo...KO him, probably not..so if it is in Vegas Nelo would always win...but yeah I don't think Kov at this time is actually a much tougher fight than SD...I just really don't after seeing those 2 performances.

And yeah officially GGG has a draw...but for me he has 2 Ws lol...so I would like to see a 3rd to see if Nelo can finally get a legit win on my card.

It is true that GGG's worth depends on Canelo...but Canelo isn't worth $35 million per fight either unless it is against GGG...that fight grossed $200 million total in the two fights, so no reason to think it wouldn't do about $100 million or so the third time...it is still probably the biggest money fight in boxing right now.

And yeah I think Canelo is peaking while GGG is starting to fade...but I felt GGG won fight two 8-4, so I would still give him a solid chance in fight 3, but would favor Nelo.

Again I don't thin Nelo's win this past May over Jacobs was more dominant than what GGG did to Jacobs, so even if GGG is declining and Canelo peaking, it should still be competitive...if one scores it fair anyway.

[Boxing_1013]

I think dazn cuts GGG once they realize that 3rd has 0 chance of happening, they only signed him for that 3rd fight, GGG didnt get that deal because of his self worth he got it because of his worth is attached to canelo, so if that 3rd dont happen I see them cutting him lose.

This is where we really differ cause I think Canelo will make easy work out of SD, SD is just a tenacious person that is open fro counter and Canelo counters are sharp where GGG counters are just there with alot of power.

Bottom line is this, the PERCEPTION OF the 3rd fight, NO ONE THINKS GGG CAN BEST CANELO, at GGG best all he was able to do is a draw, he has steady been declining and Canelo has been improving adding accolades to his resume meanwhile GGG has been fighting nothing but tune ups since canelo 1 and the first real fight he had other than canelo since canelo 1 he gets worked over bad. GGG has not done anything to make people believe he has a chance to beat Canelo.

Another way to put it...1 year ago GGG and Canelo fought and I was impressed with Canelo as I usually am...and still felt GGG won 8-4...I've watched that fight a number of times and the only way you can score it for Nelo imo is to ignore a lot of GGG's work.

That said, it is fair to wonder if GGG won the battle but lost the war...as in that fight could have taken more out of him than vice versa...I think it is very fair to wonder that.

But when I pretty clearly saw GGG win 8-4 1 year ago, why would anyone think Canelo would dominate him right now...he may, maybe GGG is starting to wash up...but again just 1 year ago they fought and GGG really outworked him almost every round.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Idk man I would still give him a legit chance to beat Nelo...KO him, probably not..so if it is in Vegas Nelo would always win...but yeah I don't think Kov at this time is actually a much tougher fight than SD...I just really don't after seeing those 2 performances.

And yeah officially GGG has a draw...but for me he has 2 Ws lol...so I would like to see a 3rd to see if Nelo can finally get a legit win on my card.

It is true that GGG's worth depends on Canelo...but Canelo isn't worth $35 million per fight either unless it is against GGG...that fight grossed $200 million total in the two fights, so no reason to think it wouldn't do about $100 million or so the third time...it is still probably the biggest money fight in boxing right now.

And yeah I think Canelo is peaking while GGG is starting to fade...but I felt GGG won fight two 8-4, so I would still give him a solid chance in fight 3, but would favor Nelo.

Again I don't thin Nelo's win this past May over Jacobs was more dominant than what GGG did to Jacobs, so even if GGG is declining and Canelo peaking, it should still be competitive...if one scores it fair anyway.

see this is what I dont like a boxing fans, "probably not..so if it is in Vegas Nelo would always win"

and you basing that off what? Your subjective opinions on how YOU SCORED THE FIGHT lol, do you not see the conflict of interest?

and of course Kovalev is a much harder fight than SD, Kovalev has alot more accolades and was the legit champ.

again you think GGG has 2 w's thats subjective and not reality.

Canelo is worth that money cause he deal is not contingent on any one particular fight unlike GGG contract that is contingent on a Canelo fight.

Canelo is entering his prime while GGG is out the door. Canelo pushed him out that door.
This is GGG career since Canelo
Canelo 1 - draw
Vanes (154 2 years retired) - W
Canelo 2 - L
Rolls (Ranked outside top 20 - W
SD (first lefit fight not canelo) - W

GGG is done.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Who’s the last decent fighter Canelo beat easily?

Oh yeah, no one.

I would pick Canelo but he never wins fights big unless his opponent is hit garbage.

Also...

Derevyanchenko would knock Kovalev out as would GGG.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Another way to put it...1 year ago GGG and Canelo fought and I was impressed with Canelo as I usually am...and still felt GGG won 8-4...I've watched that fight a number of times and the only way you can score it for Nelo imo is to ignore a lot of GGG's work.

That said, it is fair to wonder if GGG won the battle but lost the war...as in that fight could have taken more out of him than vice versa...I think it is very fair to wonder that.

But when I pretty clearly saw GGG win 8-4 1 year ago, why would anyone think Canelo would dominate him right now...he may, maybe GGG is starting to wash up...but again just 1 year ago they fought and GGG really outworked him almost every round.

the main point here is "IMO"

its your opinion, and thats fine, thats the past. What we are discussing is how valid is a 3rd fight?

Do you think GGG can win a 3rd fight vs Canelo? with no * of fanboyish pre built excuses where "ggg cant win in vegas" blah blah blah.

Can GGG win a 3rd fight? and if so? what tells you he can?

His fight vs Vanes? who was retired for 2 years pior and a 154lber? or his fight vs rolls who wasnt even in the top 20? or his fight vs SD where he got worked over bad and where alot of people thought SD WON?

So what can you point at that says this is why I say GGG can beat Canelo is a 3rd fight?

cause what you are saying now is "I BELIEVE GGG CAN WIN A 3rd FIGHT BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT"