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Canelo without a doubt!
Robert Byrd robbed Ward of a sensational highlight reel end cuz he was on his way to flattening Kovalev!
While Canelo absolutely brutally knocked him out and nearly out of the ring!
Kovalev didn’t even know where he was and sounded concussed in the post fight interview while against Ward he clearly coherent!
People hating on Canelo cuz they just couldn’t fathom that Canelo would knockout Kovalev like that, but this is boxing and it’s called the theatre of the unknowns for a reason!
Not to mention he moved up 2 weight classes and no time up!Comment
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I feel that you possibly haven't watched the fight. You should watch it.
He was teeing off on his ball sack and it was recorded by a hundred different cameras at a hundred different angles. The argument isn't that he didn't low-blow Kovalev, it was that it was "accidental, the ref couldn't see, and Kovalev was wobbled from an earlier punch".
Low blows weren't even borderline. Bullseye nut shots & he punched a couple inches lower his hand would have passed through Kovalev's legs.
I don't know if the judges rigged the first fight but they were definitely paid off by Roc Nation during the event. Hooker (RocNation) vs Perez on the undercard was blatantly fixed. Hooker barely through a punch the entire fight, was embarrassed by Perez, and was awarded a "courtesy" draw for being a Roc Nation prospect. Even the shill announcers lost their composure for that one and just kind of went silent.
I don't know ward as a person. Maybe he's a decent guy. But for a period anything RocNation touched was flamboyantly rigged against the other promoter. You had to knock them out cold to win.Last edited by ////; 11-07-2019, 08:57 AM.Comment
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I've seen that gif many times and seen the fight multiple times. That shot in the gif was borderline low, just above the B in Hublot, and not an attempt to deliberately hit him low. Kovalev was bending over trying to protect his body, and maybe 40% of the glove hit a beltline, which the ref already said was too high. I've seen a lot of the angles from photos and videos, and the "ball sack" shots that people claim to have seen, were actually "deduced" from obstructed video angles and possible trajectory extrapolation. Still, with Kov bending so low, he was almost at a 60-degree angle, it's hard to deduce clearly. I find it frustrating too that there were no photos or camera angles that clearly validate it, like with the clarity you saw with Crawford and Khan. Now that was a clear 100% low blow, 100% below the beltline.I feel that you possibly haven't watched the fight. You should watch it.
He was teeing off on his ball sack and it was recorded by a hundred different cameras at a hundred different angles. The argument isn't that he didn't low-blow Kovalev, it was that it was "accidental, the ref couldn't see, and Kovalev was wobbled from an earlier punch".
Low blows weren't even borderline. Bullseye nut shots & he punched a couple inches lower his hand would have passed through Kovalev's legs.
I don't know if the judges rigged the first fight but they were definitely paid off by Roc Nation during the event. Hooker (RocNation) vs Perez on the undercard was blatantly fixed. Hooker barely through a punch the entire fight, was embarrassed by Perez, and was awarded a "courtesy" draw for being a Roc Nation prospect. Even the shill announcers lost their composure for that one and just kind of went silent.
I don't know ward as a person. Maybe he's a decent guy. But for a period anything RocNation touched was flamboyantly rigged against the other promoter. You had to knock them out cold to win.Comment
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Ward won the 2nd fight more impressively. Why? Because Kov wasnt shopworn, hadnt been ko'd before and wasnt old.Comment
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kovalev is nowhere near his prime in fall of 2019. ward fought him at the height of his powers. i thought he lost the first fight [i was there, most people int eh building though kovalev won.] in that regard ward fought the better fighter. canelo woudlnt even fight prime kovalev, and you know it. he wouldn't fight prime golovkin. he's made a career of this. cotto, golovkin, kovalev, mosley, the list goes on. doesn't make him a bad fighter, it's just reality.
what canelo did was fight a rather listless fight until and old guy slowed down, and knocked him out. canelo is a terrific puncher nad has the trappings [timing, combinations] of a knockout artist. ward can't break a g****, he's got bad hands, and he's a boxer by nature. comparing the "knockouts" even if ward's was fishy at best in fight 2 [i thought it was a low blow,] isn't fair.
that said, if the second kovalev fight goes on 2 more rounds kovalev would have been stopped, and you know it!
so do you take the knockout of the guy canelo woudln't have fought if he was prime, or the close victory and the wide victory over kovalev at the height of his powers?
i'm taking the win over prime kovalev. again, canelo would not fight kovalev if he was prime, that tells you what you need to know. he ahsn't been the same for years. took an L to a fringe elidier alvarez, hurt seriously by anthony yarde, just a clearly depleted, all but shot fighter.
convincingly?
canelo. cleaner knockout.
more impressively? ward. he beat the dude in his f#cking prime, man.Last edited by New England; 11-08-2019, 01:05 PM.Comment
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Tough to say but I would go with Ward. Ward did face a more prime version of Kovalev who seemed like he came to win. I had Ward losing the 1st fight but saw him winning the 2nd even without the borderline shots.
I give Canelo props but something seemed weird during the entire duration of that fight like Kovalev did not want to be there.Comment
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Obviously SOG. He beat the real Krusher, when everyone had him P4P top 3-4, calling him a killer and an ATG, etc etc. Canelo beat an old, shot Kovalev who'd lost 3 of his last 7, and been paid off to not hit too hard.Comment
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